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binky 08-30-2007 04:04 PM

Great timing
 
Thank you for the snowflake- it is about 105 degrees here in the California desert, so even the thought of snow is comforting:cool:

middy 08-30-2007 04:08 PM

How do all six arms of the snowflake know to grow into the same shape? That's what I want to know.

glatt 08-30-2007 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by middy (Post 380398)
How do all six arms of the snowflake know to grow into the same shape? That's what I want to know.

I'm pretty sure it's in the genes.

Happy Monkey 08-30-2007 04:26 PM

The shape of the center determines the shape of the arms.

xoxoxoBruce 08-30-2007 05:47 PM

Starfish syndrome.

Beest 08-30-2007 09:59 PM

I usually try and do this at least once each winter, personally I'm going for catching a falling flake, and imaging it without any prep. All that freezing with liquid nitrogen and bombarding with ions might change the structure.
Then again I haven't been successful yet.


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Originally Posted by Scriveyn (Post 380119)
I had been wondering how they did it, beacause electron microscopes can only image objects whose surface is electrically conductive. -

Modern (for at least the last ten years) electron microscopes can image non conducting objects by using a low gas pressure in the chamber, incoming beam ionizes the gas around the beam providing a conducting path to dispel charge.

Low beam currents, and accelerating voltages, also help reduce sample charging in the Field emission type SEMs.

I bet you're sorry you asked now :3_eyes:

monster 08-30-2007 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beest (Post 380571)
I usually try and do this at least once each winter, personally I'm going for catching a falling flake, and imaging it without any prep. All that freezing with liquid nitrogen and bombarding with ions might change the structure.
Then again I haven't been successful yet.


But you have done some nice pics of a chrysalis. And stuff.

Scriveyn 08-31-2007 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beest (Post 380571)
... Modern (for at least the last ten years) electron microscopes can image non conducting objects by using a low gas pressure in the chamber, incoming beam ionizes the gas around the beam providing a conducting path to dispel charge.

Low beam currents, and accelerating voltages, also help reduce sample charging in the Field emission type SEMs.

I bet you're sorry you asked now :3_eyes:

Not at all - thanks B. :idea:

paxton 09-08-2007 10:15 PM

Crystallization
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by middy (Post 380398)
How do all six arms of the snowflake know to grow into the same shape? That's what I want to know.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystallization


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