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piercehawkeye45 07-11-2007 07:41 AM

Does anyone know what is up with McCain? He seemed to be one of the top Republicans out there too.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/11/us...mccain.html?hp
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On Tuesday morning, as Mr. McCain stood on the Senate floor opposing a withdrawal from Iraq, his campaign announced that the two men were departing, a development that left his team gutted, transfixed both parties and raised new doubts about his ability to continue in the race.
I am assuming it could just be pointless gossip but if McCain drops out it will be either Romney or Giuliani on top.

Griff 07-11-2007 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 362687)
Does anyone know what is up with McCain? He seemed to be one of the top Republicans out there too.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/11/us...mccain.html?hp


I am assuming it could just be pointless gossip but if McCain drops out it will be either Romney or Giuliani on top.

People no longer believe his "straight talk," since he tied his fortunes to Bush's. He is also old and insane, but that wouldn't normally bother voters.

Fred Thompson is good at acting conservative, he'll be in the mix.

Happy Monkey 07-11-2007 12:12 PM

McCain built his reputation on seeming to be a maverick who wasn't apron-stringed to the party line. It seems like losing twice to Bush in elections, and who knows how many times behind the scenes, convinced him that Bush and his type were ascendant, just in time for them to topple, taking him with them.

xoxoxoBruce 07-11-2007 01:46 PM

McCain is done. His money is drying up.

rkzenrage 07-15-2007 03:04 AM

I am a Ron Paul supporter, as you know if you read/viewed my thread.
Everything Hillary says is a lie. Even if it happens to be accurate.
She only says what she thinks people want to hear, so it is dishonest. If it happens to be accurate it is only a coincidence.
The same is true of Rudy.

piercehawkeye45 07-15-2007 07:41 AM

Unfortunately, those two have a chance to be running against each other...

Griff 07-15-2007 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 364154)
Unfortunately, those two have a chance to be running against each other...

*cold chill down spine*

freshnesschronic 07-15-2007 12:10 PM

Just wondering, I don't know much about politics, candidates or anything really. But I'm 19, haven't registered to vote, don't really plan to anytime soon. Is there an age or a specific event that will trigger my partisan to overcome my indifference?
I'd vote for Obama if I was registered because he's from Illinois (w00t) and the things I've heard about him seem pretty good. But I'm not well informed at all.

xoxoxoBruce 07-15-2007 02:43 PM

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Is there an age or a specific event that will trigger my partisan to overcome my indifference?
Yes, the realization that Mom & Dad don't control your entire world anymore, any if you don't want strangers to take over that role you have to do it yourself.

It ain't easy either, it's a lot of damn work trying to figure it out, and you'll probably never be 100% sure you've got it right.... unless you're a red state sheep.[cheap shot intended as humor and not an indictment of people who are actually voting their conscience]

piercehawkeye45 07-15-2007 04:51 PM

Fresh, I have a list of basically every current candidate's views so just ask and I can get it for you.

I can post all of it here if everyone wants it too.

rkzenrage 07-15-2007 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by freshnesschronic (Post 364192)
Just wondering, I don't know much about politics, candidates or anything really. But I'm 19, haven't registered to vote, don't really plan to anytime soon. Is there an age or a specific event that will trigger my partisan to overcome my indifference?
I'd vote for Obama if I was registered because he's from Illinois (w00t) and the things I've heard about him seem pretty good. But I'm not well informed at all.

What is stopping you from going out and registering now? Going to the candidate's websites and reading about what their stances on the issues are?

yesman065 07-15-2007 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 364247)
Fresh, I have a list of basically every current candidate's views so just ask and I can get it for you.
I can post all of it here if everyone wants it too.

I think that would be great - we can monitor how things change over time till the elections and beyond...

DanaC 07-15-2007 07:54 PM

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Just wondering, I don't know much about politics, candidates or anything really. But I'm 19, haven't registered to vote, don't really plan to anytime soon. Is there an age or a specific event that will trigger my partisan to overcome my indifference?
Register to vote. It's part of being a responsible adult. Voting is the moment, just for a fleeting instant, that you truly share in the power of government and the sovereignty of your nation.

piercehawkeye45 07-15-2007 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by yesman065 (Post 364285)
I think that would be great - we can monitor how things change over time till the elections and beyond...

I will make a new thread.

freshnesschronic 07-15-2007 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage (Post 364248)
What is stopping you from going out and registering now? Going to the candidate's websites and reading about what their stances on the issues are?

I dunno, indifference? I don't even know any of my friends who are registered.


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