Which native americans are you talking about?

Noble Pilgrims? Of course. Noble and pious, they were. They were also the most intolerant and oppressive bunch to ever arrive on these shores.
The dude that first settled Boston then welcomed the second set of Pilgrims, had to leave town within a year of their arrival.
Everyone knows bad boys wear black.

...guys so uptight even the British didn't want them.....

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I agree with this but we have to work to stop all the institutionalized racism and white supremacy in the US today. It won’t completely go away until our society is totally racially integrated but we can still fix a lot of it now.

The 10 to 20 million people living in an advanced, complex North American society before the "settlers" arrived to "tame the wilderness" ...

And we can start by teaching our high-school history students the truth about how this country started, instead of a romanticized myth that places an emphasis on European superiority. We have educated our society with "history" that isn't based on facts; it has been based on what makes us feel more comfortable about how we got here.

How do you think the myth of European superiority to "savage" indigenous people is connected to: How can students educated with innacurate history textbooks grow into adults capable of making informed decisions about the nature of their society?

Personally, I think white supremacy today has massive similarities to the Stanford Prison Experiment.

The Stanford Prison Experiment was where a random group of college students were either given a duty of prison guard or prisoner for a psychology experiment. After a while, these kids started actually acting upon their assigned positions, sometimes very violently. The prison guards were very dominant and abusive while the prisoners were very submissive and rebellious.

When white kids of today learn about history and "great" people, all they see are whites. So they start subconsciously assuming that whites are better than all the other races. When they are given this assumption, they will start to subconsciously acting upon it.

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Amazing that you brought that up. Over the weekend I read "High School Confidential" by Jeremy Iverson. The author posed as a high school student, and referred to the Stanford experiment (Iverson also graduated from Stanford) to point to this very phenomenon.

I saw a very disturbing movie based on this scenario... I cannot remember, at the moment, what it was called.

And conversely, how do you think non-white students feel about what they "learn" in "history" class?

I will put it on my list, thanks. I am assuming that you liked it?

If you can think of the name could you please give me it?

Yes, they get the opposite (prisoner) personality. That could be one of the reasons why it is hard for many to breach the "glass ceiling" and why so many are in jail (submissive and rebellious).

Got it: Das Experiment ... "based on the infamous "Stanford Prison Experiment" conducted in 1971"

Thanks a lot.

I did like it. I found on the net that the "actual" high school he went to was all up in arms, crying "foul." I didn't look at it as a scientific model of a social experiment. Of course any HS wouldn't like the drinking and drug use exposed, though we all know it is what it is (and in most ways is no different than it was for us "old skoolers." He admits that some activity was a conglomeration of people. It's not like Mr X said everything he said Mr X said, rather Mr X may have played a part with contributions from Ms Y and Mr T. :rolleyes:

In fact, the reaction I read from the administrators of the school just lent more credence to Mr Iverson's story, imo.

I would be interested in your take, pierce, from a more recently graduated from HS perspective!

Das Experiment is going on my movies I want to see list.