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Undertoad 05-16-2007 12:04 PM

Supplements make you less healthy.

Use of multi-vitamins showed increased death by prostate cancer in men

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Heavy multivitamin users were almost twice as likely to get fatal prostate cancer as men who never took the pills, concludes the study in Wednesday's Journal of the National Cancer Institute.

Here's the twist: Overall, the researchers found no link between multivitamin use and early-stage prostate cancer.

The researchers speculate that perhaps high-dose vitamins had little effect until a tumor appeared, and then could spur its growth.
Your body is a complex system. Everything is connected to everything else.

You may notice that if you put a gallon of drain cleaner down your drain, it will cause your drain to become unclogged. So if you put 100 gallons of drain cleaner down the drain every day, will it

A) cause your drain to never become clogged again?

B) double your drain's normal capacity?

C) eat through your pipes and contaminate your ground water if not your entire house?

You may notice that if you eat a good amount of vitamin A, that you retain the ability to see at night longer than your peers who don't. So, do you then megadose vitamin A?

elSicomoro 05-16-2007 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 343953)
You may notice that if you eat a good amount of vitamin A, that you retain the ability to see at night longer than your peers who don't. So, do you then megadose vitamin A?

No, because then you fuck with the clotting factor in your blood, IIRC.

I take a vitamin occasionally...maybe one or two a week. And I actually feel better than when I was taking them regularly.

Trilby 05-16-2007 03:42 PM

L-Glutamine
lethicin
Ester-C
MegaMonster B! (all the B's you'll ever need!)
Folic Acid

I'm taking a doctor prescribed 'drug-vacation'---no Rx's, all vitamins (in prescribed amounts) and thirty min. daily exercise (fate worse than death). I'll let you know how it turns out.

bluecuracao 05-16-2007 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DucksNuts (Post 343326)
Jeb, what the fugg do most of those things do???

Cinnamon
Cayenne
Calcium
Oregano oil
Caprylic acid
Ginger
Olive leaf
Turmeric
Garlic
Pau D'arco
Rosemary

Cinnamon keeps your blood sugar in check. Ginger is great for your digestion. Garlic is supposed to be good for your cholesterol levels, but I read about a recent study showing that this might not be the case, so who knows. Cayenne and Turmeric give me a buzz...woo hoo! Not sure what the others are used for.

DucksNuts 05-16-2007 09:44 PM

Thanks Blue :D

The Oregano Oil and Caprylic Acid??

WabUfvot5 05-17-2007 12:30 AM

Both caprylic acid and oregano oil are said to be antibacterial. In my experience that holds true; the caprylic acid moreso than the oregano oil.

Undertoad 05-17-2007 06:53 AM

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caprylic acid and oregano oil are said to be antibacterial
As is drain cleaner. But your body needs bacteria, it's part of the complex system.

Supplements make you less healthy.

Griff 05-17-2007 06:57 AM

I've been off all supplements for a few months now. I just don't want my liver working that hard. I started on them to see if they would improve my skin. They didn't.

Trilby 05-17-2007 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 344101)
I've been off all supplements for a few months now. I just don't want my liver working that hard. I started on them to see if they would improve my skin. They didn't.

What don't you like about your skin?

Griff 05-17-2007 11:04 AM

I was tempted to try to be funny and go racial on this but in the post Imus world, let's just stick to the issue which is eczema.

Trilby 05-17-2007 04:37 PM

My son suffers from eczema, too. When it gets really bad (in the winter, usually) he puts Elidel on it which helps.

bluecuracao 05-17-2007 06:25 PM

I'd forgotten that flax seed helps my skin a lot. I think I'll start eating it again...my skin's been kind of blah.

WabUfvot5 05-17-2007 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 344100)
As is drain cleaner. But your body needs bacteria, it's part of the complex system.

Supplements make you less healthy.

Sure, that might hold true if everything is working right. That is not always the case however.

Undertoad 05-17-2007 09:59 PM

But the twist is the prostate cancer case I posted above. There, multi-vitamins had no effect until there was something working wrong - a tumor - which the supplements made stronger and thus more deadly.

WabUfvot5 05-18-2007 04:39 AM

Sure, not all supplements are good and some can be harmful. That doesn't mean they should all be painted with the same brush nor should they be considered detrimental in every situation.


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