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Shawnee123 01-26-2007 02:41 PM

channeling my hippie self
 
What if people held a war and no one came?

;)

Undertoad 01-26-2007 02:41 PM

What statement would you take another way, other than "have a nice day"?

Elspode 01-26-2007 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 310611)
What if people held a war and no one came?

;)

As screwed up as this world is, *someone's* going to come if there's a war. Probably twice, and without lube, too.

Elspode 01-26-2007 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 310482)
Does it cause arcing in metal? Glasses, zippers, belts giving third degree burns, destruction of personal electronics like cell phones, hearing aids, pacemakers?

Yes...if you turn it up to 11.

Griff 01-26-2007 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Elspode (Post 310654)
As screwed up as this world is, *someone's* going to come if there's a war. Probably twice, and without lube, too.

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Originally Posted by MaggieL (Post 310640)
He did get some stick time enroute.

Now it begins to make sense.

The statement is: We will continue to use our military to control civilian populations rather than for doables like killing people and breaking stuff. Remember when Clinton was an idiot for getting us mixed up in Somalian politics...

Elspode 01-26-2007 08:07 PM

It wasn't just that. He got a blowjob in the Oval Office, for crying out loud. I mean, talk about trampling on the flag...

xoxoxoBruce 01-27-2007 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 310482)
Does it cause arcing in metal? Glasses, zippers, belts giving third degree burns, destruction of personal electronics like cell phones, hearing aids, pacemakers?

Unfortunately, I don't think they care. :(

xoxoxoBruce 01-27-2007 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf (Post 310576)
If they could make people actually catch fire, rather than thinking they might, they might have something there.

Or set off any ammo they're carrying. :worried:

MaggieL 01-27-2007 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 310183)
This could be a useful tool, but I fear the potential for abuse is very high. If it doesn't injure anyone, I think we'll see it being used on a lot of people indiscriminately.

Gee, If this was a "banning firearms" thread, we'd be hearing all about how non-lethal weapons should be preferred for self-defense.

xoxoxoBruce 01-27-2007 06:57 PM

Go back and look at the picture. Hardly something you can put in your purse, so that leaves it to groups with authority and no fashion sense.

There is potential for great abuse, like preventing citizens from exercising their right of peaceful assembly (read protesting) .....without them even knowing who is doing it.

This thing is here, it's not going to be uninvented. But it's a worrisome weapon, because it can be used illegally with no evidence that would be needed to to take anyone to task for violating your rights. :(

NoBoxes 01-28-2007 06:36 AM

Sounds like a failed weapons system that they're trying to find another use for. If it had been powerful enough to sweep roads ahead of a convoy and detonate IEDs it might of had a more practical use. :)

Even back in the '80s, US Special Forces "A" Teams were trained in how to close on and destroy microwave based ground detection systems (like the ones we sold to Iran) without getting fried. I went through that program which uses actual working systems set up on a US installation. I don't see the item depicted here as being useful for much more than civilian crowd control when there is an element of surprise. :eek:

OTOH, if it's legal for riot control purposes, shouldn't it be legal for interrogation? Perhaps prolonged exposure to the effects of this device could replace waterboarding! :thepain:

Kind of makes you go Hmmmm. :litebulb:

skysidhe 01-28-2007 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by yesman065 (Post 310181)
Thanks for that mental image Els - People jumpin and running all the while popcorn poppin and flyin.:shocking:


hehe yep. :) I see it too!

Kitsune 01-28-2007 08:12 AM

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I'm showing up dressed like this to my next protest, just in case.

It'd be cool if I'd arc nicely.

MaggieL 01-28-2007 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Kitsune (Post 311049)
I'm showing up dressed like this to my next protest, just in case.

It'd be cool if I'd arc nicely.

Or just possibly the whole business might act as a waveguide to contain the part of the beam that hits your face.

Alternative possibility: The highly conductive foil heats up and melts.

Bonus Darwin Award points: It catches fire. (cf. HMS Sheffield and early versions of the Bradley Fighting Vehicle)

rkzenrage 01-28-2007 10:25 PM

It can be turned up to kill... they are just saying that they are not going to use it that way. I call BS.


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