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piercehawkeye45 01-19-2007 10:11 PM

I don't think it would be that effective. The security would be the biggest problem, you can't just move that.

Toymented 01-19-2007 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 308873)
I don't think it would be that effective. The security would be the biggest problem, you can't just move that.

You've got me puzzled on this point, ph. How can you say the security is immobile when the president, senators and reps travel extensively?

piercehawkeye45 01-19-2007 10:41 PM

Do you think that the the SS doesn't have a complete layout of Washington DC and know everyplace that a sniper could hide and every weakness in its infrastructure? They would have to rework the whole system every eight years or so, which would be a huge pain in the ass.

Toymented 01-19-2007 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 308668)
[wet blanket]You will lose any efficiency the federal government ever had if you have to re-staff the entire freaking thing every 8 years and train the new employees on what their jobs are. The lobbyists will still follow the money to the new government city. Each capital city will go through terrible growing pains followed suddenly by a horrible economic depression.[/wet blanket]

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 308884)
Do you think that the the SS doesn't have a complete layout of Washington DC and know everyplace that a sniper could hide and every weakness in its infrastructure? They would have to rework the whole system every eight years or so, which would be a huge pain in the ass.

Alright, let's make it a permanent move. The seat of government should be centrally located in the country, not isolated on one coast.

Happy Monkey 01-19-2007 10:59 PM

That was the idea when DC was originally placed. It's irrelevant now, though. California congressman's jet lag isn't worth the hassle of moving...

Toymented 01-19-2007 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 308893)
That was the idea when DC was originally placed. It's irrelevant now, though. California congressman's jet lag isn't worth the hassle of moving...

The issue is bigger than relieving some congressional jetlag. It could impact the interests of the country's heartland, which are now largely ignored. If it was a valid argument 230 or so years ago, why then is the location of the capital unimportant now?

Happy Monkey 01-19-2007 11:17 PM

Because of global communications technology.

Toymented 01-19-2007 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 308903)
Because of global communications technology.

Communications are improved, no doubt about that. But it's still not the same as living and working there. The exposure to the environment and people would create a positive influence.

Happy Monkey 01-20-2007 12:02 AM

It doesn't matter where the capitol is, the same people will still be elected to go there. And it's not like working in DC made them particularly interested in DC's problems.

tw 01-20-2007 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 308873)
I don't think it would be that effective. The security would be the biggest problem, you can't just move that.

If Saddam can have mobile biological labs, then why can we not have a mobile zoo?

piercehawkeye45 01-20-2007 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 308926)
If Saddam can have mobile biological labs, then why can we not have a mobile zoo?

Somehow I think our moblie "zoo" will need more internal security than Saddam's biological labs.

tw 01-20-2007 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 308927)
Somehow I think our moblie "zoo" will need more internal security than Saddam's biological labs.

True. Our's leaks more. Even a CIA agent in Kansas City would not be safe.

yesman065 01-20-2007 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 308927)
Somehow I think our moblie "zoo" will need more internal security than Saddam's biological labs.

Obviously Saddams security wasn't too good - look where it got him.

Toymented 01-20-2007 06:56 AM

Surge Kansas City!
 
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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 308927)
Somehow I think our moblie "zoo" will need more internal security than Saddam's biological labs.

OK ph, since you won't let the security thing go. I say the solution is "surge" Kansas City! That way, we'll make it secure for both citizens and public servants.

Griff 01-20-2007 07:50 AM

Couldn't we just outsource the Feds to Mexico?


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