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Phil 01-03-2007 01:11 PM

picking up on typos is very, very mature.

wolf 01-03-2007 01:13 PM

See we are better.

Keep a close watch on your grammar, too. You won't know what hit you.

Flint 01-03-2007 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil (Post 303814)
picking up on typos is very, very mature.

See, what you did wrong there was not capitalizing the beginning of the sentence. That's 50 lashes with a wet noodle.

Phil 01-03-2007 01:37 PM

i cant be arsed. and i like being lashed with wet noodles.

Trilby 01-03-2007 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil (Post 303827)
and i like being lashed with wet noodles.

Then, we have many things to talk about, comrade!

Seriously, if America is the New Roma, which way to the baths?


:D

Phil 01-03-2007 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianna (Post 303831)
Then, we have many things to talk about, comrade!

Seriously, if America is the New Roma, which way to the baths?


:D

[b]F[b]rom Bush Square, go past the Bush memorial statue (the one where he holds the world above his head) turn right onto Bush Drive, past the other Bush memorial statue (the one where he holds an AK47 in the shape of a crucifix), and if you can get past the guards, the Baths are easily visible by the Bush memorial statue which dominates the Baths from atop : the one where he holds Brittania's head to his dick. ;)

yesman065 01-03-2007 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 303796)
That depends on when we do fall to that status. Sooner or later America will fall to the status of Britian or France, it probably won't happen in the next century but it will happen eventually.

I'm sure there will be a major change in nation status in the next 50 to 100 years. Countries may merge together or we'll be divided only by continents - I think the world will be so different in 50 yrs due to technological advances and whatnot.

Then again :alien: may come and visit us, or we may have outposts elsewhere in the universe. :vader1:

piercehawkeye45 01-03-2007 03:14 PM

I would really like to the see the EU unite in all aspects. They would have to create a new language and that would be the easiest problem but it would be symbolic nevertheless. Other than that I am not currently aware of any other countries that have potential to unite, but there could be some.

lumberjim 01-03-2007 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 303773)
Our gladiators fight every Sunday in cities all over the Empire; returning every week to confront attacking Lions, Eagles, and Seahawks.

Oh, dear. you're a Cowboys fan?

yesman065 01-03-2007 08:15 PM

That would be way too fitting!

tw 01-03-2007 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 303946)
Oh, dear. you're a Cowboys fan?

You see. The Romans did not even have Cowboys in their Coliseum. Romans will never be as good as us.

xoxoxoBruce 01-03-2007 09:11 PM

From this list of reasons for the fall of the Roman Empire
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Unemployment

During the latter years of the empire farming was done on large estates called latifundia that were owned by wealthy men who used slave labor. A farmer who had to pay workmen could not produce goods as cheaply. Many farmers could not compete with these low prices and lost or sold their farms. This not only undermined the citizen farmer who passed his values to his family, but also filled the cities with unemployed people. At one time, the emperor was importing grain to feed more than 100,000 people in Rome alone. These people were not only a burden but also had little to do but cause trouble and contribute to an ever increasing crime rate.
Now substitute Illegal Aliens for Slaves. :eyebrow:

Urbane Guerrilla 01-03-2007 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 303988)
From this list of reasons for the fall of the Roman Empire
Now substitute Illegal Aliens for Slaves. :eyebrow:

And still, you have to pay them. Or else word gets around and you don't get anybody looking for work. I'd say calling them "slaves" is stretching the term unconscionably. Remember that "unfair treatment" differs considerably in definition from "slavery," for slavery is a mere subset.

Now the big thing that keeps us from being a new Empire is our country's fundamentally anti-imperial mindset. We remain in that habit, and have a certain, inchoate understanding that imperial conquest does not serve our trade interests, which we set first in priority -- fundamentally, it's that wealthy trade partners, not being tapped for tribute nor constrained in their own markets and trade, trade more, and the enrichment becomes mutual.

Capitalism, basically, is what keeps us non-imperial. The logic of empire was based on a mercantilistic economic model, which we rejected in the 1770s and -80s for good and all, having been on the short end of that stick.

Aliantha 01-03-2007 10:45 PM

UG, for someone so apparently well educated, you seem to have very little grasp on what it means to be an imperial nation.

Capitalism certainly does not save you from that.

tw 01-04-2007 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 304015)
UG, for someone so apparently well educated, you seem to have very little grasp on what it means to be an imperial nation.

UG is well traveled. He knows a gallon of gas is larger in an imperial nation.


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