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JayMcGee 12-03-2006 06:45 PM

Battlestar I kept watching, thinking 'it surely must get better...'


but it didn't. I think I prefer the original - at least it was unpretentious hokum-pokum.

Babylon 5 and Farscape are probally the best TV Sci-Fi shows to-date. Firefly could have been interesting, but the movie 'Serenity' was far, far, better.

as for non-SF shows, for sheer 'my brain needs a rest - popcorn munchin' escapism' I've always liked stuff like 'the sweeney, the professionals, hill st blues' et al

Ibby 12-03-2006 07:17 PM

Gilmore Girls.

Witty, well-written, VERY musically hip... but still, its the fucking Gilmore Girls.

SteveDallas 12-03-2006 07:47 PM

Wait, you're fucking the Gilmore Girls?!?!? :eek: :notworthy

(Come on, you know somebody had to say it.)

Pie 12-03-2006 08:31 PM

B5 and Firefly didn't make the list because I'm not ashamed of them. They both effin' rock!

bluecuracao 12-03-2006 08:42 PM

I'm another Project Runway and Top Chef fan. I used to love Isaac (fashion designer Isaac Mizrahi's talk show), but they got rid of the band and Giovanni the barrista this season, so no more. The most embarrassing one was Ice-T's Rap School on VH1.

Ibby 12-03-2006 08:48 PM

Firefly, I forgot that one. I'm ashamed of it, because Joss Whedon = the devil.

wolf 12-03-2006 08:55 PM

I'm going to go and watch The Rat Patrol. In Color.

I just got the Season 1 DVD set.

I think that counts for this thread.

Oh yeah, and I loved The Man from U.N.C.L.E.

There is a lot of 60s and 70s TV of questionable artistic merit that I love.

Like Batman and The Green Hornet. Some time last year one of the Encore channels (either Action or Mystery) was running Green Hornet episodes. I think, though, that like The Avengers, these shows have a certain kitschy-ness that makes them okay to like.

zippyt 12-03-2006 09:06 PM

The Green Hornet.

I met The Green Hornet AND KATO once and SOME were I have an autograph from them both !!!

rkzenrage 12-03-2006 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey
Why is everyone (except wolf) ashamed to watch science fiction? What's wrong with you all?

I am not ashamed to watch SF... just poorly acted/written SF.

richlevy 12-04-2006 12:55 AM

Back in the day - Get Smart. ...and loving it.;)

DanaC 12-04-2006 04:02 AM

I love the new Battlestar! I think they've done some really interesting things with it. The choice to make Starbuck a girl, but keep many of the rogueish elements of the character was a good call. I also think it's of a high quality in terms of script writing and acting. What was particularly brave, imo, is that they broke away from the adage that a TV show should be accessible at any point that you come into it. I came into the show about a third of the way through the first series and was totally lost for two episodes. I knew what I was watching was good, that the character interaction was believable and complex......but I was also very confused. I then started to piece it together and eventually downloaded the mini-series and first couple of episodes to fill in the gaps. Most programmes you can come in to any episode in the series and all the pieces fit together within that first viewing.

I am absolutely not ashamed to like Battlstar.....nor am i ashamed to like Sci-fi. I used to have loads of arguments with Judah's dad about sci-fi and its potential worth as an art form. (he is a playwrite). I read and watch all sorts of stuff, from 'high culture' to pulp novels. I don't see that sci-fi is any less valid as an art form than books like Wuthering Heights and the plays of Ibsen. It just operates along different lines and criteria. Some of the finest novels I have ever read have been science fiction, and they dealt with the 'big issues'. Some of the worst novels i have ever read have also been sci-fi, but then again some of the most unreadable and unengaging stuff I've ever read has been so called 'literature'.

I am slightly shamefaced about my love for 'Cadfael' though :P

Happy Monkey 12-04-2006 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkzenrage
I am not ashamed to watch SF... just poorly acted/written SF.

But then you listed SG1 and Galactica. SG1 is OK, but in no way embarassing, and Galactica is excellent in both writing and acting.

Spexxvet 12-04-2006 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zippyt
The Green Hornet.

I met The Green Hornet AND KATO once and SOME were I have an autograph from them both !!!

Kato was Bruce Lee, in the TV series. I love it, too

Southpark.

Kung Fu - watched it new, will watch it anytime I run across it, now.

JayMcGee 12-04-2006 07:28 PM

ah, grasshopper....... loved that series. Also 'Monkey' and 'The Water margin'.... now, Monkey was kitsch!

@DanaC - have you been watchng the SCi-Fi Brittannia stuff on Beeb 4? Some good stuff in there.

DanaC 12-04-2006 07:29 PM

Yes I have! It's been a brilliant series. And some of the reshowings have been a delight.


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