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wolf 11-23-2006 11:23 AM

There was this thing, you may have heard of it, called the American Revolution.

DanaC 11-23-2006 11:26 AM

Yep. Was a fucking long time ago. Dont see how that relates to your current need for small arms.

Also, the need for weapons in everyday life had as much to do with being a frontier nation as with the revolution

Incidentally Urbane, Up until very recently the concept of militia was a strong part of the English consciousness. We held to a militia system for over a thousand years. It was the duty for every freeborn man to hold arms throughout the saxon and medieval period.

Undertoad 11-23-2006 11:26 AM

In British history books it is not called a "revolution" at all, but merely "The Loss of the American Colonies".

DanaC 11-23-2006 11:27 AM

Not true Undertoad.

Undertoad 11-23-2006 11:28 AM

Well it was in the book I had. (1978, 3rd form public school)

DanaC 11-23-2006 11:29 AM

I think the key there is '1978'. Believe it or not, progress happens even in blighty.

Undertoad 11-23-2006 11:30 AM

They are re-writing history?!

DanaC 11-23-2006 11:34 AM

History isn't static. Historical scholarship is a constantly changing and revising affair. However, this is about how history is taught to children, rather than scholarship. How history is taught is and has always been subject to the political zeitgeist and prevailing orthodoxy. The book you are referring to is from a time when the concept of 'Empire' was still tenously clinging on, albeit it in terms of something lost. Nowadays, that concept is a historical one and brings little or no influence to bear upon the teaching of our young.

MaggieL 11-23-2006 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC
Dont see how that relates to your current need for small arms.

The UN and other socialist...sorry, of course I mean "progressive" elements continue to insist that we prove we "need" things in order to be allowed to keep them.

To my mind, how important it obviously is to these people that I be disarmed is some of the best proof I have that I "need" to continue to be armed.

BrianR 11-23-2006 06:53 PM

I had British neighbors once upon a time who referred to the American Revolution as the American Rebellion and sported a bumper sticker that read "Paul Revere was a snitch!"

It's all a matter of perspective.

Brian

JayMcGee 11-23-2006 07:09 PM

nope, we do call it the American Revolution.... and with good cause.... those colonials were definately revolting.....

Aliantha 11-23-2006 07:11 PM

geee...even the Australian ones? (who happen to be doing very well in the cricket atm) :)

JayMcGee 11-23-2006 07:18 PM

especially the....the...aus....oz.....ab..... them thar lot down under...


(ashes? what ashes? hmmmph... it's only a game....)

Aliantha 11-23-2006 07:24 PM

How sad. And I thought you had a 'thing' for...ummm...aussies. ;)

JayMcGee 11-23-2006 07:33 PM

ah, well. as I said, it's only a game.


mmmm......how game are you? (in best Leslie Phillips accent)


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