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Happy Monkey 11-03-2006 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf
Just hope, HM, that the tree spirits either don't think you are a dumb idea, or have already gone to their winter's rest.

I bet they wouldn't surf the net, anyway.

mrnoodle 11-03-2006 02:51 PM

Animal rights is my asshole button, if I have the definition right. As far as the religious issue, I just want the same courtesy I try to give others (most of the time), and it's impossible. Being white, male, and Christian, I have no recourse to force it, but I can keep asking.

Save your 'omg lol he feels persecuted' comebacks, I don't feel oppressed or whatever. I am not going to stop pointing out the discrepancy whenever I see it, though. Eventually I'll get a response that acknowledges the issue and admits that there is a double standard, then I'll be happy.

Flint 11-03-2006 02:54 PM

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When have I been disrespectful on this issue?

I never said you were. I was referring to the institution of Christianity, not to any individual person.
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Originally Posted by mrnoodle
When did simple courtesy become special treatment?

I never said it did. What I call expecting special treatment is: expecting more courtesy than is extended.
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At any rate, your post doesn't answer mine, it strengthens my argument.

Is this like: I'm rubber and you're glue, whatever you say bounces off my argument and sticks to yours?

Flint 11-03-2006 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mrnoodle
Eventually I'll get a response that acknowledges the issue and admits that there is a double standard, then I'll be happy.

I acknowledge that you are observing something, and your view of it differs fundamentally from mine. I accept your opinion, and disagree with it.

Shawnee123 11-03-2006 03:03 PM

And I raise you a tsk tsk

Hippikos 11-03-2006 03:54 PM

Is blasphemy a posh word for blowme?


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LIKE MANY PASTORS, the Rev. Ted Haggard has a packed schedule, including four worship services on Sunday, counseling sessions with church members, and radio commercials promoting the Scriptures. But in his Palm Pilot, next to an electronic copy of the Bible, Mr. Haggard has one Monday appointment that stands out: "3 p.m.: White House." It's a weekly conference call Mr. Haggard dials into that's led by Tim Goeglein, the White House's liaison to the conservative community, and includes prominent religious leaders. "We have direct access," says Mr. Haggard, senior pastor of the giant New Life Church in Colorado Springs, Colo. "I can call [Mr. Goeglein], he'll take my concern to the president and get back to me in 24 hours." more...

How did he find the time to have a 3 year affair with a male prostitute and will the White House still get back to him in 24 hours?

Undertoad 11-03-2006 04:05 PM

OMG, this guy is going to go slowly. He just claimed that he did buy meth, but that he threw it out. Right, that's what people do with meth, they just buy it and throw it out.

9th Engineer 11-03-2006 04:08 PM

HM, do you mean that animal rights activists piss you off, or do you spend your weekends picketing by research labs and shampoo companies?

Sundae 11-03-2006 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer
HM, do you mean that animal rights activists piss you off, or do you spend your weekends picketing by research labs and shampoo companies?

Thread hijack but I'm not sure what threads you watch - but post a video of yourself 9th, please! You're one of my favourite dissenting "voices" :grinnylov

mrnoodle 11-03-2006 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint
I never said you were. I was referring to the institution of Christianity, not to any individual person.

Institutions can't act, only people. By saying that "Christians do blah blah blah", you include me, an individual Christian, in your statement. I understand that you don't accept my definition of Christian, however.
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I never said it did. What I call expecting special treatment is: expecting more courtesy than is extended.
If you make fun of my God, knowing that I find it offensive, it is discourteous. Not illegal, not oppressive, just discourteous.
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Is this like: I'm rubber and you're glue, whatever you say bounces off my argument and sticks to yours?
No, it's like perpetually reframing the question so that you never have to answer it. Here it is again, in extended form, and with specific example:

If I walked into a room where I knew, in advance, that among the crowd were 5 Hindi, and I wore a big red dot on my forehead, loudly told Ghandi jokes, and asked where the monkey brains were, would I be considered rude? Keep in mind that we all have the right to be there, and it is neutral territory, so no particular group has a right over the others.

If I walked into the same room, and knew there were 5 Christians, would it not be considered less rude if I loudly said "Jesus effing Christ, that guy is a goddam idiot."?

Why?

Happy Monkey 11-03-2006 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer
HM, do you mean that animal rights activists ...

(That wasn't me, it was mrnoodle.)

rkzenrage 11-03-2006 04:48 PM

I bet Dubya got his salad tossed.

Happy Monkey 11-03-2006 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mrnoodle
If I walked into a room where I knew, in advance, that among the crowd were 5 Hindi, and I wore a big red dot on my forehead, loudly told Ghandi jokes, and asked where the monkey brains were, would I be considered rude? Keep in mind that we all have the right to be there, and it is neutral territory, so no particular group has a right over the others.

If I walked into the same room, and knew there were 5 Christians, would it not be considered less rude if I loudly said "Jesus effing Christ, that guy is a goddam idiot."?

Why?

Of course it would. The former is direct insults, and the latter is saying a "bad word" in a way that the vast majority of exclamations in the English language are derived from.

rkzenrage 11-03-2006 04:55 PM

I saw a video on YouTube recently with him threatening all "the gays".
I gotta' find that again.

Happy Monkey 11-03-2006 04:56 PM

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This screenshot is so depressing on so many levels.


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