No...I'm smoking the last ganja I ever actually bought (I've done some hits on other people's stuff since then, you know?), nine years ago. I'm cheap, and mostly sober on a day to day basis.

We just found this little bag while unpacking. I'd pretty much forgotten we had it at all. I have to admit it is coming in handy. I'd have gone for Camels by now, and probably end up in jail just trying to drive the two blocks to the C-store.

One of the reasons I'm not real good at this whole gettin' blasted to ignore reality thing is that I lack practice for the past eight years or so.

ambivalent, schmambivalent, buddy.

You're awfully insightful for a car salesman, buddy. Oh. Now I get the whole thing.

No wonder you do well.

And I *am* ambivalent, man. At least, until the Mrs is sitting at home at 1:30 in the morning and I'm the one out going yeehaw.

I never said I was enlightened.

This is a very depressing meaningless drunk thread.

I think our Aussie one was much more entertaining...at the time and in hindsight. ;)

I didn't have as much participation...and I was experiencing a serious life issue. If I weren't so shameless, I wouldn't have shared. :)

FWIW, things were cool for her, and I seem to be okay in the light of dawn. I can't and won't wax philosophical about the big picture of Polyamory/Open Marriage/Whatever, but it is a functional and stimulating lifestyle - but it certainly isn't for everyone. In particular, it isn't advisable for primary couples who aren't actually very much in love with each other and who don't have a very stable relationship. Poly doesn't solve problems, and shouldn't be approached as such. It *can* be very difficult surmounting one's insecurities, and I certainly have a lot of those.

For us, I honestly think that it tends to make us more attentive and engaged spouses. Go figure...

Not to sound too trite, but everyone has to find there own way to happiness, or at least contentment (the dictionary and I disagree on whether these are the same).

Our current national move back towards conservatism seems to have resulted in an attempt to solve divorce by moving back to a strict definition of marriage, teaching abstinence only education, and outlawing abortion. I'm assuming the hope here is that this will cause a larger quantity of marriages due to horny virgins and unplanned pregnancies. I think examining and possibly expanding the 'meaning' of marriage is better for everyone, especially considering the rigidity, almost slavery, in some cultures definition of the term.

I don't want to give marriage advice, because I notice that all of the conservative pundits and other relationship counselors giving advice on marriage have been divorced at least once. This would not be a problem if the advice was along the line of "Don't do what I did and...", but they all seem to gloss over this fact.

I just hope that it works out for you. I always assumed that polyamorous meant a group marriage, or at least 'wife swapping' within a group. What you're describing sounds to me to be more of an 'open marriage' arrangement.

From a safety perspective, the former is better than the latter. In any case, I hope you both stay safe in every sense of the word and that you find what you are looking for.

Stay well.

Do you make no distinction between a car salesman and a finance manager, or do you just keep forgetting? ( i know I've told you what i do )
IIRC you are an office manager. This is like me calling you a secretary.

I understand what you mean, it just makes me wonder because you seem to have graduated from the Alan Alda school for sensitive men, and should know that the distinction is important to me. I sold cars for 2 of the 10 years i've been in the car business. the first two. For someone who plays the caring/sensitive card, it seems like you might actually be just a little bit self absorpbed.

How that for insight, ya stuttering prick, ya? ;)

You and I seem to have the same "my jokes push your buttons" thing going from time to time. :) Yeah, I can be a little self absorbed, especially when my inhibitions are down. Otherwise, I work real hard to be humble and deferential the rest of the time. Anyway...sorry, I know you're a hard working SOB. You couldn't pay me enough to put in the hours you do. Further, I know that Finance Manager is an incredibly pressure-filled position. I couldn't do it. Too much of a pussy.

Now I'm gonna go cry...you beast.

Are you happy now, LJ? You made Elspode cry!

you didn;t get the Joe Pesci reference?

No. I missed it. Where?

ya stuttering prick. its from goodfellas, when he's asking him if he's a clown. stands him all up, rattles him. it's what i was doing to spodie.

'Splode , question you said your wife was going out with a friend , how does that work later ??? Uncomfortable silence ??
Or a big hand shake from him saying " Thanks Buddie , I was Needing THAT !!! "

No offence intended , just querious .

Din! Din! Din!
You Lazarushian-leather Gunga Din!
Tho' I've belted you an' flayed you,
By the livin' Gawd that made you,
You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din!

:o

Captain Morgan and coke.

Just came back from seeing The Departed.

Lost of killing and swearing. Story was ok but a little to twisted and a sad commentary on humans.