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Spexxvet 09-13-2006 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla
Listen to Wolf. She's wise.

Only when she agrees with you, thouh. Right?
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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla
I haven't met a smart anti-neocon yet. A few who think they're smart, yes, but you couldn't prove it by me; the stupid say stupid things. Scratch an anti-neocon deep enough and the substrate looks indistinguishable from an anti-American. Just who the hell needs that?

That's OK. I've never met a smart conservative. Scratch one deep enough and it's the same selfishness inside every one of 'em. Put your republinders back on.

wolf 09-13-2006 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage
I live in the deep, DEEP, south, however, I have yet to hear the most nutty redneck lump all Iraqis in with the insurgency.

The deep south ends at the Florida border. You do not live in the deep south.

Florida is New York State, but with Bermuda shorts and a light jacket in February.

Urbane Guerrilla 09-20-2006 01:10 AM

Selfishness??? Spexx, dear boy, you are without experience of William F. Buckley. You aren't going to find selfishness in that guy, nor stupidity. And then there are the right-of-center guys who can keep up with him.

And your first remark was utterly unworthy of reply. Resist the temptation to declare yourself a schmuck, okay?

Urbane Guerrilla 09-20-2006 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt
You're like the crazy neighbor in sitcoms, aren't you? You waltz in, say something wacky and then disappear. :rolleyes:

Glatt, all I need say to this is "Q.E.D."

rkzenrage 09-20-2006 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf
The deep south ends at the Florida border. You do not live in the deep south.

Florida is New York State, but with Bermuda shorts and a light jacket in February.

Then you have spent 0 min in the Panhandle and in Central Fl.
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Originally Posted by Spexxvet
That's OK. I've never met a smart conservative.

True... if you are not a multi-millionaire you are voting against your interests... just stupid. Neo-cons, mean to boot.

Flint 09-20-2006 11:07 AM

As long as people are content with catagorizing themselves into these impossibly monolithic groups, and de-humanizing those who are "against" them, we will keep getting bamboozled by the us-versus-them politics of boogeyman-ism. The "two-party system" has become a one-party (divide and conquer) system.

rkzenrage 09-20-2006 11:08 AM

^ That.

Spexxvet 09-20-2006 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla
Selfishness??? Spexx, dear boy, you are without experience of William F. Buckley. You aren't going to find selfishness in that guy, nor stupidity. And then there are the right-of-center guys who can keep up with him.
...

Does this sound liberal or conservative?:

"don't tax me. More money in my pocket"
"I shouldn't have to pay for other people's welfare, social security, or medicare. More money in my pocket"
"don't regulate my business - I want all the profits, and if my employees get hurt or sick, or if residents around my factory suffer, I don't care, as long as I'm raking in the dough"
"there shouldn't be a minimum wage - if I can get away with paying someone to work for $1.00/hour, I should be allowed to. More in my pocket."
"illegal immigration is great! Those wetbacks work for just about nothing. More money in my pocket"

marichiko 09-20-2006 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

And your first remark was utterly unworthy of reply. Resist the temptation to declare yourself a schmuck, okay?

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla
... all I need say to this is "Q.E.D."

:rolleyes:

tw 09-20-2006 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla
Glatt, all I need say to this is "Q.E.D."

Does that mean he has finished rewriting history?

richlevy 09-20-2006 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt
You're like the crazy neighbor in sitcoms, aren't you? You waltz in, say something wacky and then disappear. :rolleyes:

Sometimes his behavior is a little too unbelievable. This being the Internet, I'm still not sure that UG isn't the alter ego of another Cellarite. It would be pretty funny if at the end of the year TW confessed that he made him up, or better yet, Marichiko.;)

marichiko 09-20-2006 08:15 PM

:lol:

No, the personna I REALLY made up was L J! Fooled you,eh?

xoxoxoBruce 09-20-2006 08:28 PM

Well....yes...but I think Jinx is in for the real shock. :eek:

headsplice 09-21-2006 10:54 AM

Some political theory history for everyone:
The neocons primary theoretical antecendent is Leo Strauss, a Trotskyite. Irving Kristol called the neoconservatives, "Socialists who just got mugged." More generally, they're welfare-staters (whether it be personal welfare or corporate) who supported Reagan during the Cold War and they're primarily defined by their foreign policy stances (specifically pre-emptive 'Big Stick'/military action over diplomacy) rather than domestic ones.
Also, they're mostly assholes. They're the ones that make shit up to get their way in government, (e.g., the OSP [Doug Feith's group] in the Pentagon and the current Pentagonian Iran Working Group [and if you don't believe they're trying to get us into Iran, despite the failures in Iraq, you're fooling yourself]).
So, for all you 'liberal haters' out there, be aware of how you label yourselves.

Undertoad 09-21-2006 11:05 AM

People will label your labels!

And then others will label the label-labelers!


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