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MaggieL 05-20-2006 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad
It appears now that the original story is false. Experts say report of badges for Jews in Iran is untrue

Thanks for the update. I'll be interested to see the emerging details of what this story was actually based on...it still appears to not have been "made up from whole cloth" :-)

tw 05-20-2006 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Beestie
The president of Iran is not religious. He's a politician who is playing his hand very well. Not that outsmarting W takes all that much.

The president of Iran also has almost no power. Rafsanjani (who was president then) was slowly taking power from the mullahs with support of a large Iranian majority. Then some other country started rattling nukes and threatening Iran. That literally undermined all reform and put the mullahs completely back in power. As a result, Iran's current president is a hard liner; the mullah's #1 choice.

Did we learn from Cuba? Everytime Castro was threatened by American rhetoric, then Castro became very popular. Cuba is having severe energy problems today. Their eight electric generators are old, have support problems, and are making Castro look bad. Anti-Castro graffitti has actually been observed. Now if America can just keep ignoring Castro, then maybe Cubans will demand change. Containment is always a far more powerful solution.

Meanwhile back in Iran, the mullahs are now safely and firmly entrenched; control Iran's government. The mullahs are also the reason why Iran has a nuclear program. Reformists were against nukes until ... well pre-emption really did fix Iran. It wiped out the entire Iran reform movement. The current president in Iran is a hardliner and strong supporter of religious extremism. Rafanjani - because of pre-emption - is also a strong supporter of the mullahs. Religious extremists control Iran's government.

Happy Monkey 05-20-2006 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad
It appears now that the original story is false. Experts say report of badges for Jews in Iran is untrue

I suspect the original story will have more legs than the retraction, which could easily have been the idea...

skysidhe 05-20-2006 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
Now let's not jump to conclusions, here. Iran may want to be able to readily identify Jews, Christians and Zoroastrians, when everyone is required to wear "traditional Islamic garb", so they won't inadvertently offend them.:lol2:


haha That's funny. Probably the Iraqus' interpretation of the US political correctness methods.

Undertoad 05-20-2006 01:48 PM

The idea behind what?

marichiko 05-20-2006 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad
The idea behind what?

The original (apparently false report) Like "lets insult our Ironic friends just in case someone still might like them."

Happy Monkey 05-20-2006 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by marichiko
Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad
The idea behind what?

The original (apparently false report) Like "lets insult our Ironic friends just in case someone still might like them."

To get a "Iran==Nazi" vibe going.

Undertoad 05-20-2006 07:42 PM

Well there's plenty to hate about the Iran govt without having to make any of it up.

Happy Monkey 05-20-2006 09:23 PM

Well, yeah, but - - NAZIS!

footfootfoot 05-20-2006 09:58 PM

I'm with HM on this one, I mean after all the whole "new pearl harbor" thing worked like a charm, so why not trot out another WWII enemy and resurrect it?

Ibby 05-20-2006 10:06 PM

And everyone knows that Nazis are the triple-dog-dare of bad comparisons...

footfootfoot 05-21-2006 07:17 AM

really, actually laughing aloud

Undertoad 05-21-2006 08:19 AM

Anyway you guys, the story started in Canadian media so it's really those nasty warfaring Canucks pushing the comparison.

And one reason it was repeated so quickly is because it easily passed the sniff test. Pres. Ahmadinejad has put holocaust denial into speeches recently.

MaggieL 05-21-2006 12:51 PM

To see into the mind of Ahmadinejad we need only read the text of his letter to Bush.

Happy Monkey 05-22-2006 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad
Anyway you guys, the story started in Canadian media so it's really those nasty warfaring Canucks pushing the comparison.

I don't think Canada has a nationalized media. Nutters can own papers up there, too.


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