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BigV 04-12-2019 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Carruthers (Post 1030193)
Now there's a thought!

I've just had a look at the dozen or so plates I have and most seem to have registrations in a non-standard format.
I'm no expert in these matters but they do seem to be of an 'individual' nature and which presumably mean something to the owners.
I have a pair of plates from Montana which read 'I NEWTON'. Photographic evidence is available. :)

Incidentally, I have mostly collected plates with wildlife designs, particularly Maine and Minnesota, or horse designs from Virginia and Kentucky.
I have a particularly fine plate from Pennsylvania depicting a River Otter.
Are you familiar with that one?

Do you have a US huckleberry?

Carruthers 04-13-2019 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BigV (Post 1030238)
Do you have a US huckleberry?

No, just wildlife, horses and the Jamestown plate above.

BigV 04-13-2019 10:46 AM

*sigh*

Too clever by half.

I was invoking the Val Kilmer usage of the term, from Tombstone.

Let me try again.

Do you have someone in the US you can depend on to send you desirable plates?

Carruthers 04-13-2019 10:50 AM

It did occur to me that there was a cultural reference there, but not having the first idea of what it was I played a straight bat. ;)


I haven't bought any plates for a while, but I have found a dealer in Massachusetts to be very reliable and I've had good transactions with a couple of eBay sellers.

Gravdigr 04-19-2019 10:01 AM

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April 18, 1943

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Albert Hofmann deliberately doses himself with LSD for the first time, three days after having discovered its effects on April 16.

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1987 – The Simpsons first appear as a series of shorts on The Tracey Ullman Show.

1995 – Oklahoma City bombing: The Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, USA, is bombed, killing 168 people including 19 children under the age of six.

2011 – Fidel Castro resigns.

Carruthers 04-28-2019 05:14 AM

28 April 1944
 
More than 600 US sailors and soldiers died in the April 1944 rehearsal for D-day.

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Families of American sailors and soldiers who lost their lives in a disastrous second world war exercise off the British coast will this weekend join veterans, dignitaries and local people to mark the 75th anniversary of the tragedy.

More than 600 personnel lost their lives in Exercise Tiger, a rehearsal for D-day, on 28 April 1944, but the botched operation was covered up for decades and only came to light 40 years later when a hotelier located a Sherman tank lost in the exercise on the seabed and hauled it to shore.

On Sunday, 29 relatives of the Americans who died will gather around the tank at Slapton Sands in Devon alongside military officials, politicians, diplomats and residents, including some who remember having to leave their homes so that the exercise could be conducted in secrecy.

It is the biggest commemoration of the Exercise Tiger disaster, which is still not well known in the UK or the US.

Dean Small, whose late father Ken recovered the tank, said it was vital the tragedy was remembered. “One of the main reasons my dad wanted to set up the tank on the beach was to create a tangible memorial, somewhere for people to gather.”

Small said his father had been intrigued when he moved to the area and found bits of shrapnel, bullets and tunic buttons on the beach. A fisherman told him a strange object was lying on the seabed three-quarters of a mile offshore. Ken Small persuaded the fisherman to dive to the object, and they were shocked to discover it was a tank.

Small researched how it had come to rest on the seabed and the hidden story of Exercise Tiger emerged. “It troubled dad that the story and the sacrifice so many had made had been covered up,” said his son.

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xoxoxoBruce 04-28-2019 12:32 PM

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I'd say 9 of these is a force to be reckoned with. :rolleyes:

sexobon 04-28-2019 12:55 PM

That's why the mantra is: Shoot, move, and communicate.

Diaphone Jim 04-28-2019 06:30 PM

I have heard references to these incidents leading up to D Day, never read about any in detail.
The size of the fuck up and the rank responsible determine the depth and duration of the cover up. This was a real champ.
Just reading about LST-531 stretches belief. It was commissioned January, 1944 and sunk April 28; no pictures apparently exist, but this is close: http://leaderbackup.weebly.com/uploa...484024_orig.jp
It was designed to carry and deliver tanks but had over 400 men on board. Almost all were lost, but I can find only 98 names. Apparently it was common to issue life jackets that were not combatable with the rucks worn. so they were strapped around the soldier or sailor's waist, turning them upside down in the water, insuring drowning.
Almost all responsible and survivors are now dead.

There are videos of what is probably 531 on the ocean floor, but show little.
Except that it capsized.

Important post, carruthers.

xoxoxoBruce 04-29-2019 12:23 AM

They had to cover it up so as not to tip off D-Day plans, then D-Day, Battle of the bulge, liberating Paris, concentration camps, and VE-Day took the spotlight. Then we had to concentrate of their war crimes, not our mistakes.

Diaphone Jim 04-29-2019 11:34 AM

Sometimes it is hard to tell the difference between a necessary secret and a cover-up.
Actually, German intelligence used the choice of location off Devon as a clue to the invasion at Normandy.

It is nice that there is only one E-Boat left.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-devon-32396969

xoxoxoBruce 04-29-2019 12:24 PM

That link says 4 E-boats, while the link in Carruther's post says 9 E-boats. That's a big difference. :confused:

Diaphone Jim 04-29-2019 07:55 PM

From the link:

"Mr Casner, 88, from Summerville, South Carolina, added: "This is really big. If all the nine E-boats that were out that day hit us, I wouldn't be here talking about it."

xoxoxoBruce 04-29-2019 11:28 PM

Ah, then at the other link reporter heard the Nazis had 9 total got mixed up. They had pickets watching the E-boat base to warn the troops of the boats coming out but these four were still out from the night before. That's just another thing the Allies overlooked in this clusterfuck.

Gravdigr 05-04-2019 08:48 AM

May 4, 1988



BIG bada boom!

PEPCON Disaster

4500 metric tons of Space Shuttle fuel burn and detonate in four separate explosions, the last of which was the equivalent of 1 kiloton of TNT.

Carruthers 05-04-2019 09:19 AM

I thought that the shock wave at about the 7 sec mark was frightening enough, but that accompanying the explosion at about the 55 sec point was terrifying.

Two fatalities is two too many but I'm surprised that there weren't more given that there were also 372 souls injured.

Gravdigr 05-10-2019 08:37 AM

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Carruthers 05-18-2019 09:00 AM

18 May 1969
 
On this day, Apollo 10 was launched from Cape Kennedy.

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Fifty years ago and a quarter of a million miles away, three astronauts carried out the dress rehearsal for one of the greatest events in human history.
On May 18, 1969, Apollo 10 lifted off from Launch Complex 39B at the Kennedy Space Center. Its mission: to return to the Moon and make the final flight tests that would pave the way for the Apollo 11 lunar landing two months later.
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Though Apollo 8 had already orbited the Moon and Apollo 9 had tested the Lunar Module (LM) in Earth orbit, there were still many questions that had to be answered and tests to be conducted.
Until Apollo 10, the Apollo spacecraft, crew, mission support facilities, procedures, and communications systems had never been fully tested under actual lunar mission conditions.
Until this was done, the success of Apollo 11 was very much in doubt.


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Incidentally, the Apollo 10 Command Module was displayed at the Science Museum in London.
To the best of my knowledge it remains there today.

xoxoxoBruce 05-18-2019 09:29 AM

The powers that be at NASA gave them just enough fuel to test the lander down to 50k feet from the surface but if they landed they couldn't take off again.
The Astronauts were kind of a headstrong bunch, and there will be no upstaging the A team with their carefully choreographed landing two months later.http://cellar.org/2012/nono.gif

Undertoad 05-27-2019 07:35 AM

100 years ago today the first plane crosses the Atlantic.

Diaphone Jim 05-31-2019 11:15 AM

I read about this a few weeks ago and don't think I had any idea.
On this day and a few days following in 1921, Tulsa Oklahoma experienced one of the horrendous manmade catastrophes in United States history.
It was called a race riot, but it was much more:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_riot

Read at least the summary.

xoxoxoBruce 05-31-2019 11:35 AM

Yeah read about that a couple years ago and was at first how is this possible, how could this happen?
Then sickened to realize how quickly it could, and can happen.
It wasn't like the victims were low lifes, vagrants, or shanty town dwellers easily victimized. Scary.

Carruthers 06-06-2019 04:41 AM

6th June 1944
 
There's plenty of coverage of D Day and the commemorative events elsewhere so I won't over egg the pudding, but the first news of Operation Overlord might be worth a listen.

John Snagge's delivery seems quite low key.



BTW, I'm informed by a usually reliable source that it was originally going to be called B Day, but the French objected for some reason.

Griff 06-06-2019 06:15 AM

The lack of hype is refreshing.

Gravdigr 06-12-2019 08:40 AM

"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"

Carruthers 06-14-2019 04:12 AM

14th June 1919
 
On this day, aviators John Alcock and Arthur Whitten Brown departed St John's, Newfoundland on the first non-stop trans-Atlantic flight.

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It was not an easy flight. The overloaded aircraft had difficulty taking off the rough field and only barely missed the tops of the trees.
At 17:20 the wind-driven electrical generator failed, depriving them of radio contact, their intercom and heating.
An exhaust pipe burst shortly afterwards, causing a frightening noise which made conversation impossible without the failed intercom.

At 5.00 p.m., they had to fly through thick fog.This was serious because it prevented Brown from being able to navigate using his sextant.
Blind flying in fog or cloud should only be undertaken with gyroscopic instruments, which they did not have.
Alcock twice lost control of the aircraft and nearly hit the sea after a spiral dive.
He also had to deal with a broken trim control that made the plane become very nose-heavy as fuel was consumed.

At 12:15 a.m., Brown got a glimpse of the stars and could use his sextant, and found that they were on course.
Their electric heating suits had failed, making them very cold in the open cockpit.
Then at 3:00am they flew into a large snowstorm. They were drenched by rain, their instruments iced up, and the plane was in danger of icing and becoming unflyable.
The carburettors also iced up; it has been said that Brown had to climb out onto the wings to clear the engines, although he made no mention of that.

They made landfall in County Galway, crash-landing at 8:40 a.m. on 15 June 1919, not far from their intended landing place, after less than sixteen hours' flying time.

The aircraft was damaged upon arrival because of an attempt to land on what appeared from the air to be a suitable green field, but which turned out to be Derrygilmlagh Bog, near Clifden in County Galway in Ireland, although neither of the airmen was hurt. Brown said that if the weather had been good they could have pressed on to London.
Despite the privations and difficulties of the flight, it's a fair bet that the in flight catering was of a rather higher standard than you will find today.

They probably even had a decent cup of tea at the half way mark, something I have never managed to achieve. :)

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Gravdigr 06-14-2019 06:16 AM

I was just reading about that.

Hasn't been fifteen minutes.

xoxoxoBruce 06-14-2019 05:42 PM

How would they make a decent cuppa with no heat? Maybe that's why he climbed out on the wing, engine heat to make tea.

Gravdigr 06-25-2019 11:09 AM

June 25

1876 - Lieutenant Colonel George Armstrong Custer utters his famous last words: "Where did all those fucking Indians come from?!"

1947 – The Diary of a Young Girl is published. The Young Girl being Anne Frank.

1948 - The Berlin Airlift begins.

1978 - The Gay Pride flag is flown for the first time.

And that's the way it was.[/Uncle Walter]

Gravdigr 06-29-2019 10:41 AM

June 29, 2007

Apple Inc. releases its first mobile phone, the iPhone.

Glinda 06-29-2019 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 1034695)
June 25

1876 - Lieutenant Colonel George Armstrong Custer utters his famous last words: "Where did all those fucking Indians come from?!"

Why was the ground all wet and sticky after the Battle of the Little Bighorn?

Because the Indians kept coming and coming and coming.

:rolleyes:

Gravdigr 06-29-2019 11:56 AM

:facepalm:

Gravdigr 07-02-2019 07:19 AM

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1776 - American Revolution: The Continental Congress adopts a resolution severing ties with the Kingdom of Great Britain although the wording of the formal Declaration of Independence is not published until July 4.:f207:

1937 – Amelia Earhart and navigator Fred Noonan

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are last heard from over the Pacific Ocean while attempting to make the first equatorial round-the-world flight.

1962 – The first Walmart store, then known as Wal-Mart,

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opens for business in Rogers, Arkansas.

Clodfobble 07-02-2019 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 1035017)
1937 – Amelia Earhart and navigator Fred Noonan

My kids are related to that guy...

glatt 07-02-2019 12:22 PM

That's neat.

fargon 07-02-2019 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 1035018)
My kids are related to that guy...

Very Cool.

Clodfobble 07-02-2019 10:10 PM

I suppose. I'm one of those people who finds genealogy just infuriatingly boring. Feels like an unpleasant combination of reducing my accomplishments and taking credit for other people's.

xoxoxoBruce 07-02-2019 11:59 PM

Highly accomplished ancestors make you look like a failure, you didn't measure up. You didn't found a great corporation, you didn't find the biggest gold field in Nevada, you didn't find a cure for the common cold then give the patent rights to the world. :lol:

Griff 07-03-2019 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1035055)
Highly accomplished ancestors make you look like a failure, you didn't measure up. You didn't found a great corporation, you didn't find the biggest gold field in Nevada, you didn't find a cure for the common cold then give the patent rights to the world. :lol:

...you didn't get lost in your most high profile navigation gig. :) Still a neat connection, my girls are very pro Amelia.

xoxoxoBruce 07-03-2019 07:05 AM

Amelia was certainly a feisty broad. I read about all the things she accomplished and some about how she lived, but I wonder how much opposition she faced. Maybe she was so larger than life and had so many fans, maybe that intimidated her opponents?

Diaphone Jim 07-03-2019 11:55 AM

Is that the same as saying "related on their mother's side?"

Clodfobble 07-03-2019 11:44 PM

Related on their father's side, yes. I'm only related by marriage--I guess I could have said my husband's related to that guy instead of my kids, but he's not big into genealogy either. ;)

sexobon 07-04-2019 08:05 AM

Growing up, did any of them play with toy airplanes on a treadmill?

Gravdigr 07-07-2019 09:45 AM

July 7

1992 – The New York Court of Appeals rules that women have the same right as men to go topless in public.

:ggw:

tw 07-07-2019 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1035069)
Amelia was certainly a feisty broad.

Then you never met Pancho Barnes.

Gravdigr 07-07-2019 02:19 PM

Have you met Amelia Earhart?:eyebrow:

Don't you think there could have been two (2) feisty broads in the history of the planet? Or has there just been room under the sun for one?

tw 07-08-2019 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 1035316)
Don't you think there could have been two (2) feisty broads in the history of the planet?

Read what Pancho, Amelia, and a whole squadron of them did in unison across the country.

Just had lunch with Amelia. At least that is what she called herself.

Gravdigr 07-08-2019 01:25 PM

Wow! You sure can keep a secret.

tw 07-08-2019 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 1035347)
Wow! You sure can keep a secret.

And if you haven't yet noticed, so can she.

Gravdigr 07-10-2019 07:01 PM

Yeah, well dead men and women tell very few tales.

xoxoxoBruce 07-10-2019 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 1035311)
Then you never met Pancho Barnes.

If you had been paying attention you'd know I posted about Pancho awhile back.

tw 07-11-2019 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1035421)
If you had been paying attention you'd know I posted about Pancho awhile back.

Did you say something?

Gravdigr 07-11-2019 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 1035311)
Then you never met Pancho Barnes.

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1035421)
If you had been paying attention you'd know I posted about Pancho awhile back.

You do know you're talking to an alien?:eyebrow:

Welcome back.

tw 07-11-2019 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 1035438)
You do know you're talking to an alien?

Aliens do not get so emotional. So xoxoxoBruce is not one. Racist he may be. Since that is also an example of an emotional adult. We can talk to aliens. The emotional only understand violence, insults, scolding and the Donald's decrees.

xoxoxoBruce 07-12-2019 12:07 AM

Read it and weep... https://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=32953

Gravdigr 07-12-2019 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 1035469)
Aliens do not get so emotional.

Um...Yer the alien, ya dumb shit.

sexobon 07-14-2019 09:20 AM

Happy Bastille Day
 
Some Frenchmen may not see the celebration quite the same way again...

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At least 24 Yellow Vests lost eyes in violent protests. Now they're more determined than ever

… Breidenstein is one of at least 24 people who have lost an eye since the "gilets jaunes," or Yellow Vest, protests began in November 2018, according to Desarmons-Les, a support group for those maimed on the streets of French cities. ...

… In March France's interior ministry put the number of Yellow Vests injured at 2,200 and put the number of police officers hurt in the clashes at 1,500. The ministry would not give CNN the number of people who sustained eye injuries. …

… But on Sunday, Breidenstein plans to make the two-hour journey to Paris from his home in Troyes, in the northeast of France, to return to the place where he lost his eye -- the Champs-Elysees, …

… The revolt has dwindled over the past several months with less than 100 protesters showing up in the capital each Saturday.

However, the Yellow Vests are hoping once again to make their voices heard on Bastille Day …

… Both the United Nations and the European Parliament have condemned the French police for the apparent use of excessive force during the yellow vest rallies. ...
No bastille for you today.

Carruthers 07-16-2019 08:32 AM

Apollo 11
 
On 16th July 1969 at 13:32:00 UTC Apollo 11 was launched.

You know the rest!

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Brief, but timed to the minute!

tw 07-16-2019 10:37 AM

How many aliens did they have to fight off? Since they went to the Outer Limits.

Carruthers 07-21-2019 05:30 AM

Apollo 11
 
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What a sight that must have been!

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