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tw 11-23-2008 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 506792)
You have no evidence that Hicks was damaged in such a manner by being at Gitmo.

Statements attiributed to people who know Hicks easily trump your post based in zero facts and no knowledge.

xoxoxoBruce 11-23-2008 02:45 AM

But the people that know Hicks, don't know if he was damaged when he got there. They hadn't seen him in a long time and he'd been through a lot.

DanaC 11-23-2008 06:52 AM

Actually, that's a good point Bruce.

Though, having heard some of the stories that have come out from people who've left Gitmo (particularly the three lads from Tipton and the Manchester lad) I am inclined to think that the prisoners have been treated appallingly.

TheMercenary 11-23-2008 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 507066)
Actually, that's a good point Bruce.

Though, having heard some of the stories that have come out from people who've left Gitmo (particularly the three lads from Tipton and the Manchester lad) I am inclined to think that the prisoners have been treated appallingly.

Solitary will do strange things to people. It does not mean they were tortured or physically harmed. Sucks to be those guys who got caught up in the dragnet. Others should probably stay til death, but given the state of affairs I would even release those to their host countries whether they wanted them or not.

xoxoxoBruce 11-23-2008 07:42 AM

Host countries or home countries?

TheMercenary 11-23-2008 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 507082)
Host countries or home countries?

Thank you, home countries.

xoxoxoBruce 11-23-2008 07:46 AM

OK, where they came from and not where they were caught. At least for the ones that it's not the same.

TheMercenary 11-23-2008 07:55 AM

Correct, I would send them back to their home countries and let the government do with them as they pleased.

Aliantha 11-23-2008 03:27 PM

I think they should all be sent back to their home countries.

I'm glad Hicks was sent home. He's been a free man for almost a year now and hasn't blown anything up yet. After being held for such a long time with no charges laid and then bullshit ones laid in the end, it's no wonder he went a bit nuts...just like all the others in Gitmo. I'd be inclined to say most of them are probably more dangerous coming out than they were going in. They certainly have more reason to hate America after the experience.

xoxoxoBruce 11-23-2008 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 507192)
I'd be inclined to say most of them are probably more dangerous coming out than they were going in.

Right... kill 'em.

Aliantha 11-23-2008 04:00 PM

Yeah well, I'm sure there are plenty who'd support that notion.

I wouldn't though, not that it matters, even if the prisoners are Australian citizens.

ZenGum 11-23-2008 05:57 PM

The problem with sending them back to their home countries is that those countries are often far less squeamish about using torture than the USA. Prolonged solitary confinement and waterboarding are kid's stuff compared to what goes on in some places.

I'll be very curious to see what happens to any repatriatees after they are sent home (and whether any start begging to be let back into Guantanamo Bay!)

TheMercenary 11-23-2008 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 507246)
The problem with sending them back to their home countries is that those countries are often far less squeamish about using torture than the USA. Prolonged solitary confinement and waterboarding are kid's stuff compared to what goes on in some places.

I'll be very curious to see what happens to any repatriatees after they are sent home (and whether any start begging to be let back into Guantanamo Bay!)

To bad... so sad. Tough shit. You can't have it both ways. I say we pass them off and make them some one else's problem and then judge them like the US has been judged on how they deal with them. Personally I can't wait....

classicman 11-23-2008 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 507246)
I'll be very curious to see what happens to any repatriatees after they are sent home (and whether any start begging to be let back into Guantanamo Bay!)

We'll never know. If they do anything to them not only are they not afraid to do much worse than waterboarding, but they won't tell anyone about it either. Those repatriotees will vanish.

TheMercenary 11-23-2008 09:29 PM

Seriously. You bleeding hearts want to end GITMO, fine, most of us fully support it. Just don't whine when these guys have their heads chopped off as they get off the airplane when they get home. That blood will be on your hands. I welcome the chance to say I told you so.


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