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xoxoxoBruce 04-04-2009 11:45 AM
Stevens was in congress for 40 years, and like most (all?) of those long-timers he felt he was entitled to any perks he could get away with. It's very hard to prosecute these clowns because of the power and connections they have. Witnesses are intimidated, and usually covering their own ass, so to build a case prosecutors usually have to nail the witness and offer a plea bargain to get them to testify. That frustration on the part of the prosecutors sometimes makes them over zealous feeling the end justifies the means, and that's not right either.

If the damn voters would do their job we wouldn't have this problem.

TGRR 04-04-2009 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 552764)
Stevens was in congress for 40 years, and like most (all?) of those long-timers he felt he was entitled to any perks he could get away with. It's very hard to prosecute these clowns because of the power and connections they have. Witnesses are intimidated, and usually covering their own ass, so to build a case prosecutors usually have to nail the witness and offer a plea bargain to get them to testify. That frustration on the part of the prosecutors sometimes makes them over zealous feeling the end justifies the means, and that's not right either.

If the damn voters would do their job we wouldn't have this problem.
It's Alaska. They voted for Palin. What do you expect?

xoxoxoBruce 04-04-2009 12:01 PM
Palin certainly wasn't ready for prime time but for Alaskans she was the lesser evil. She did OK by them for the most part, as they weren't affected by her very much in their day to day lives. Alaskans have daily concerns that make crooked politicians pale by comparison. :apaw::wolf:

TGRR 04-04-2009 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 552767)
Palin certainly wasn't ready for prime time but for Alaskans she was the lesser evil. She did OK by them for the most part, as they weren't affected by her very much in their day to day lives. Alaskans have daily concerns that make crooked politicians pale by comparison. :apaw::wolf:
Volcanoes, for example?

TGRR,
Reasonable certain Bobby Jindal isn't "Mr Popularity" around Mount Redoubt.

xoxoxoBruce 04-04-2009 03:32 PM
I think I'd be safe in saying, to Alaskans, Mt Redoubt is orders of magnitude more of a concern than Jindal.

TGRR 04-04-2009 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 552816)
I think I'd be safe in saying, to Alaskans, Mt Redoubt is orders of magnitude more of a concern than Jindal.
Kind of. Jindal wanted to cancel the volcano monitoring that saved lots of lives around Mt Redoubt. He said it was a boondoggle, a day or two before the first warnings went out.

xoxoxoBruce 04-04-2009 04:29 PM
OK, I'd missed that, thanks.

richlevy 04-04-2009 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 552359)
My thoughts as well. He was an asshat and a half assed commedian and remains the same as a politician.
Three little words - "Bedtime for Bonzo".

Jill 04-05-2009 02:30 AM
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It may be the Democrats in the Senate have their reservations about whether a professional comedian -- and that's the bulk of his resumé -- would amount to an asset to their party if actually sitting in Congress.
Al Franken is a cum laude graduate of Harvard with a Bachelor's Degree in Political Science. He's a four-time Emmy winning writer and six time published author, as well as a radio host and television and movie producer. Calling him nothing more than a "professional comedian" is more than a bit disingenuous.

sugarpop 04-05-2009 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla (Post 552166)
It may be the Democrats in the Senate have their reservations about whether a professional comedian -- and that's the bulk of his resumé -- would amount to an asset to their party if actually sitting in Congress. They're not finding the time to beat the drums either for Franken to step up or Coleman to sit down.
Why? Minnesota also elected a wrestler as governor. :D

sugarpop 04-05-2009 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 552616)
I don't know what to think about that situation. I find it odd, to say the least. It appears that he may be "getting off" because of some technicality. Ugghh, I hate that.

On the other hand, maybe what some of the reports are saying about the FBI agent and her "special relationship" is true - Could it really be that this guy was framed or whatever? I personally don't think so, but....
I agree. It always sucks when guilty people get off because of prosecutorial misconduct. Just because the charges were dropped, that doesn't mean he's innocent. So a person who's guilty of misconduct gets off... because of misconduct. Brilliant.

xoxoxoBruce 04-05-2009 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Jill (Post 552928)
Al Franken is a cum laude graduate of Harvard with a Bachelor's Degree in Political Science. He's a four-time Emmy winning writer and six time published author, as well as a radio host and television and movie producer. Calling him nothing more than a "professional comedian" is more than a bit disingenuous.
Jill, disingenuous is being too kind, that's the way UG rolls. :haha:

Redux 04-05-2009 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by richlevy (Post 552905)
Three little words - "Bedtime for Bonzo".
As well as a Cooter (from Dukes of Hazzard) and a Gopher (from Love Boat) elected to Congress.

Jill 04-06-2009 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 553007)

Jill, disingenuous is being too kind, that's the way UG rolls. :haha:
Heh. Well, being a relative noob around here, I thought I'd wait until I know him better before I call him a moron. :D

richlevy 04-06-2009 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 553089)
As well as a Cooter (from Dukes of Hazzard) and a Gopher (from Love Boat) elected to Congress.
Fred Grandy (Gopher) served 4 terms as a congressman for Iowa. I saw him once on C-Span in a committee and was not really impressed.


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