Nah, the best protection is living in a tip. If you can't find anything -neither can they and they'll probaly be too disgusted when they peek through the windows to even bother trying.

That's precisely the point, I'm not telling you what to do in your house. You don't seem to feel the same. :eyebrow:


But yes, guns can be such a bother. Now I have to drive all the way to Boothwyn, must be 3 or 4 miles, to pick up another gun I've won. The 7th I've won IIRC.

How many times have I said V-O-L-U-N-T-A-R-Y?

How many times have I said no? :p

I agree with you on that one Brian. That's why we have one big dog and one small. The small one always barks first, and if she barks like there's actually someone there, the big dog then gets in on the act.

If I was breaking into homes, tazer the dog move-on, if working alone. If working with a partner lock the dog into another room.
Most dogs, unless trained will leave you alone once you are in the house and you give them a treat.
Watch the show about the burglars that now show people how easy it is to break into their homes. The dogs just follow him around until he gets annoyed then he just locks them into a room.

Then recant this:
Since it's precisely NOT the point, as I'm not telling you what to do in your house.

I'm appealing to reason. You don't have to see reason. ;)

You appeal is not reasonable. It's also not logical nor would it be effective.
Use your head...you want me to voluntarily give up just my hand guns. Ok, how do I do that?

If I sell them, then someone else will have them, so how does that help? The guy that buys them might live next door to you.

Maybe I should put them in the Goodwill or Salvation Army collection boxes. That would get them into the right hands, huh?

How about beating them into plowshares? Nope, don't farm anymore.

Are you suggesting I destroy $11,000 worth of hand guns, that aren't hurting anybody, that are safely locked away, that don't make a stinkin' bit of difference in your life or anyone else's but my own, and if destroyed still wouldn't make a damn bit of difference to anyone but me?

Is that what you want, bunkie? Would that put your mind at ease? Would that let you sleep better?

Get a fuckin' life, Hillary. :right:

Most burglaries are spur of the moment things rkz. Very few are planned to any great extent, and I don't buy the suggestion that dogs don't put burglars off. If there's two houses side by side and one has a dog and the other doesn't, which would you pick if you had no specific reason to choose one or the other besides ease of access?

Aside from that, dogs protect the house and yard when there's no one at home. All the guns in the world wont do anything for you if you're not at home to use them.

Surrre, why listen to the professionals, how silly!?

You pick the house you case, the hosue you feel has the best stuff in it, the dog does not enter into it.

Most criminals are lazy rkz. That's why they're criminals. They don't like working hard.

Simply make it as difficult as possible for them to get in and they'll just as likely pass you by and move on to an easier target.

Why would you bother with a house which has a dog or two in the yard. High fences. Security systems and bars or security screens on all the windows and doors along with deadlocks on all of the same when there's a house in the same neighbourhood which has none of the above?

because they have better stuff !!!

To steal the dogfood, of course. :D

Zippy, the point is, there's always going to be easier places for average low tech criminals (the majority are smash and grab) to get into than one where the owner has gone to some effort to protect their home and contents.

I'm not suggesting they don't ''case'' potential sites. What I'm suggesting is they do and then decide it looks like too much work and move onto another place that'll be a shit load easier.

I know ( I used to put alarms in for a liveing ) , useualy they just kick in a door and grab what they can ,
But all that security is like a quest for some !!
They just GOTS to see what these folks are hideing in there !!