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Oh my god, did you really just dig up joe the plumber??

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Originally Posted by Adak (Post 835344)

Howard would LOVE to get acknowledged for being on Romney's enemies list
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But Howard would NOT want to be on Obama's enemies list.

I would love for you to come back in 6 months after the election and re-read the stuff you are writing. It's hysterical the knots you are tying yourself in.

With a perfectly straight face, Conservative John Sununu speaks his mind.

Washington Post
Aaron Blake
October 25, 2012

Top Romney aide Sununu suggests Powell endorsed Obama because he’s black

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John Sununu, a top adviser to Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign,
suggested Thursday that Colin Powell endorsed President Obama because both men are African-American.

Asked Thursday on CNN about Powell’s endorsement, Sununu said
the endorsement might be for reasons other than policy.
“Frankly, when you take a look at Colin Powell, you have to wonder whether
that’s an endorsement based on issues or whether he’s got a slightly different reason
for preferring President Obama,” Sununu said.
Asked what those might be, Sununu pointed to race.

“Well, I think when you have somebody of your own race that you’re proud
of being president of the United States, I applaud Colin for standing with him,” Sununu said.
<snip>

Sure, that must be it... race, not issues
... just as if some whites are not against Obama because he is black.

this falls into the same category as gaffes like

"corporations are people too"
"I don't know about Tebow, but some of my friends own nfl teams"
same as above "...NASCAR teams"
"do you want to bet $10,000?"
"Ann had it rough, only two Cadillacs"

Sometimes, people reveal what is really on their mind. It can be informative.

Ummm.... a "gaffe" implies it was unintentional.

Today on Fox News, Sununu stated that Obama's was the "... most racially divisive administration, ever"
Besides being absurd on it's face, this comment comes across to me as quite intentional.

Sununu is one of Romney's major advisors, and is not being called back.

But I agree with your comment:

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Sometimes, people reveal what is really on their mind. It can be informative.

I believe he believes what he said. I believe that revealing his true feelings was unintentional, hence "gaffe". He meant what he said, he just didn't mean to say it out loud.

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Originally Posted by BigV (Post 835916)

I believe he believes what he said. I believe that revealing his true feelings was unintentional, hence "gaffe". He meant what he said, he just didn't mean to say it out loud.

Like the Chief Whip who recently had to resign after losing his temper with some police officers and shouting:

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“Best you learn your f***ing place. You don’t run this f***ing government. You’re f***ing plebs.”

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...#ixzz2AUuNKE6Z

I'm not a statistician, but this doesn't look right, even if I'm reluctant to accept conspiracy theories.

What do you all think? Is this hogwash or possible? If it is real, I seriously doubt anything will be able to change it...too much money behind this.

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This computer fraud resulted in votes being flipped from Democrat to Republican in every federal, senatorial, congressional and gubernatorial election since 2008 (thus far) and in the 2012 primary contests from other Republicans to Mitt Romney.

Vote flipping gave Romney a 57,000-vote victory over Santorum in Wisconsin. Absent vote flipping, Santorum would have won over Romney by about 54,000 according to the analysis. Was Wisconsin the only state where Romney’s share of the vote increased in this way as precinct size increased? No. There were eleven states that showed this amazing anomaly, Romney gaining in votes and margins as precinct size increased.

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A retired NSA analyst has spent seven years studying computerized voting anomalies. He applied a simple mathematical formula to past election results across Arizona. His results showed across-the-board systemic election fraud on a coordinated and massive scale.

When the analyst applied a mathematical model to actual voting results in the largest voting precincts, he saw that only the large precincts suddenly trended towards Mitt Romney in the Arizona primary – and indeed all Republicans in every election since 2008 – by a factor of 8%-10%. The Republican candidate in every race saw an 8-10%. gain in his totals whilst the Democrat lost 8-10%. This is a swing of up to 20 point, enough to win an election unless a candidate was losing very badly.

In Ohio, GOP consultant Michael Connell claimed that the vote count computer program he had created for the state had a trap door that shifted Democratic votes to the GOP. He was subpoenaed as a witness in a lawsuit against then-Secretary of State Ken Blackwell, and lawyers for the plaintiff asked the Dept. of Justice to provide him with security because there were two threats made against Connell’s life by people associated with Karl Rove. But in Dec. 2008, before the trial began, Connell was killed in a plane crash outside Akron Ohio.

There were problems in Florida, as well.

A study by the Quantitative Methods Research Team at the University of California at Berkeley found that anomalies between Florida counties using touch-screen voting and those using other methods could not be explained statistically. Noting the higher-than-expected votes for Bush in three large Democratic counties, Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach, Michael Hout, a Berkeley professor who did the study said there were strong suspicions of vote-rigging.
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“No matter how many factors and variables we took into consideration, the significant correlation in the votes for President Bush and electronic voting cannot be explained,” Hout said. “The study shows that a county’s use of electronic voting resulted in a disproportionate increase in votes for President Bush. There is just a trivial probability of evidence like this appearing in a population where the true difference is zero—less than once in a thousand chances.”

Hacking the Vote

tw warned us about this years ago.

Ahhh...I stayed out of the politics forums until this year. Musta missed it.

It's still a serious problem, but after the election dust settles everybody but Karl Rove forgets about it until it rears it's ugly head again.

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 835983)

Like the Chief Whip who recently had to resign after losing his temper with some police officers and shouting:

EXACTLY like that.

I found this interesting.

That guy has a history series that I have been following. Extremely interesting.

I'm voting for Obama.

twice.