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Spexxvet 04-29-2007 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Kitsune (Post 338957)
I was thinking of suggesting closing the thread as well, but I didn't know that was done in this forum. I wish I hadn't opened it to begin with.

Amazing what a simple question can bring about.

It's all your fault. I bet you killed Kenny, too, you bastard!:p

Spexxvet 04-29-2007 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 338593)
Many people here, including myself, have proven that natural rights exist until taken away by society.... all great scholars and even the founding fathers understood that.
But alas, you keep ordering fudge ripple, silly.

All you've done is express your concept of reality. There's no proof.

Spexxvet 04-29-2007 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 338766)
With regard to the slaughter of children, yes, I do. It is generally agreed that there are only a few natural rights, but they are the biggies. No one will ever convince me that I am wrong about them.

If your mind is closed in this matter, there's no need to continue the debate

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 338766)
If you believe that there are situations where it is not utterly wrong to slaughter innocent children for the purposes of tradition or societal convention, then yes, our moralities are definitely mutually exclusive.

I don't "believe that there are situations where it is not utterly wrong to slaughter innocent children for the purposes of tradition or societal convention", but I reserve the right to change my mind.:rolleyes:

Spexxvet 04-29-2007 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Radar (Post 338654)
If that's your point, than you have no point. We do have universal, immutable, and undeniable rights and they are the same for all people regardless of what personal beliefs they have or what kind of culture or "society" they live in or were raised in. Some "societies" violate rights more than others, but that does not mean people don't have the universal and natural rights that are being violated.

Wrong. They may violate what you perceive as rights, but your perception doesn't make it so.

Radar 04-29-2007 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 338962)
we're john wayne motherfuckers

Personally speaking, I've never fucked John Wayne's mother.

Radar 04-29-2007 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 338970)
Wrong. They may violate what you perceive as rights, but your perception doesn't make it so.

Wrong. My rights aren't a perception, a "concept", or a social agreement. My rights are a tangible reality whether or not you choose to ignore them. If you doubt my rights are a reality, try to violate them and you will find very real bullets in your ass.

xoxoxoBruce 04-29-2007 01:51 PM

General Question Has anyone changed their mind or position because of this thread?

Cloud 04-29-2007 01:58 PM

of course not--because arguing is futile!

Spexxvet 04-29-2007 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 339005)
General Question Has anyone changed their mind or position because of this thread?

Yeah. four times. Now I'm back where I started, just twice as certain. :nadkick:

But the way, which issue are you talking about? Guns? Rights? Ridiculing posts? Radar's assholicity? Not that it really matters...:D

rkzenrage 04-29-2007 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 339006)
of course not--because arguing is futile!

Good thing some of us are discussing.

Radar 04-29-2007 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 339015)
Yeah. four times. Now I'm back where I started, just twice as certain. :nadkick:

But the way, which issue are you talking about? Guns? Rights? Ridiculing posts? Radar's assholicity? Not that it really matters...:D

Looks who is acting Ass Holier than thou now!

zippyt 04-29-2007 04:20 PM

Shut this fucking useless damn thread DOWN UT !!!!
Some folksjust cant agree to dissagree .

Radar 04-29-2007 04:23 PM

Someone stop the thread of death! lol

Kitsune 04-29-2007 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by zippyt (Post 339026)
Shut this fucking useless damn thread DOWN UT !!!!

Why? It will just continue on here and if that thread gets shut down as well, the grudge will appear in a new one. The gun debate has been here before and it will come again in a cycle as sure as the seasons.

The only difference this time around is a handful of hard-headed posters that are more dead set than usual. Let 'em go, ignore the thread, and move on to other things. Why be tied up in this debate? There are better topics of interest, here. I'm not sure why so many people are still clinging to the gun discussion so many days after it was kicked off.

Beer. Beer and posting. Relax. It's good for you, good for everyone despite not all having come to that realization, yet. This isn't that serious of a place. ...is it?

http://www.somefaintlight.org/images/icons/nyah.gif

Besides, if UT shuts this down, I'll be one of the few (the first?) to be honored by starting a thread that gets locked. While I'd love to have my name on the wall for that, I don't want it to be over a fucking yes/no poll question!

Cloud 04-29-2007 07:13 PM

Beer!

'tho beer and guns don't mix too well.


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