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Gravdigr 04-02-2018 02:04 PM

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April 2

1912 - RMS Titanic

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leaves Belfast for sea trials.

1982 – Falklands War: Argentina invades the Falkland Islands.

2014 – A spree shooting occurs at the Fort Hood army base in Texas, with four dead, including the gunman, and 16 others injured.

Carruthers 04-02-2018 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 1006498)

1982 – Falklands War: Argentina invades the Falkland Islands.

It seems like yesterday.
I vividly recall Al Haig making a commendable, if exhausting and ultimately unsuccessful, effort to broker a settlement between ourselves and Argentina.

Gravdigr 04-03-2018 02:25 PM

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1882 - An unarmed Jesse James is shot by the coward Robert Ford, in the back of the head, while standing on a chair cleaning a dusty picture hanging on the wall.

James had just learned from a newspaper article that gang member Dick Liddil had confessed to the murder of one Wood Hite. He was suspicious as to why the Ford brothers hadn't told him about it. James then realized the Fords were there to betray him. Instead of confronting them, with whom he had just eaten breakfast, James removed both his pistols, walked across the room, laid them on the sofa, and returned across the living room, and began cleaning the picture.

Carruthers 04-03-2018 02:41 PM

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Photo of Jesse James bought on eBay could be worth millions
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A photo bought by a collector for £7 on eBay could be worth millions after experts identified it as a rare picture of Wild West outlaw Jesse James.

Justin Whiting, 45, bought the tintype image and noticed a similarity between the boy in the picture and a photo of Jesse James in a book.

He consulted experts who confirmed it was a genuine portrait of the bank robber taken when he was 14.

The selling title stated: "Victorian tintype photo young man in dark suit standing by chair 1870-1879 US"

Mr Whiting, from Spalding, said experts believe it could be worth at least £2m.

He bought the tintype - an early form of photography in which an image is produced on a thin sheet of tin - via eBay last July.

He decided to have it analysed and enlisted the help of Will Dunniway, a 19th Century photography expert from California, who concluded the photo was taken between 1861 to 1862.

A report by the expert said: "It is very evident by the face, hair cut, jacket, shirt and tie that this is the same image of Jesse James at 14 years old. One of the originals."

Mr Whiting, who has been out of work since 2003 due to back problems, then sent the image, measuring 3.5in by 2.5in, to Los Angeles forensic expert Kent Gibson who also confirmed its authenticity.

He said he intended to sell the photo so he could buy his own house and car, adding: "I'm being super careful. That photograph is the most valuable thing I've ever had in my possession.

It's staying in my friend's safe for now."

Mr Gibson said: "All power to Justin. An authentic photograph of outlaw Billy the Kid sold for $5m (£3.6m) in 2015 so the sky's the limit.

"Jesse James is a very famous outlaw so this is obviously a valuable image."

20 March 2018
£1.00 = $1.41

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xoxoxoBruce 04-03-2018 05:07 PM

I't's amazing, If I spent millions of dollars to buy that tintype I probably wouldn't see any more than looking at the picture Carruthers posted. As a matter of fact less because the tintype is 2.5 x 3.5 and my screen picture is about 7" square.

Now I can't hang it over the mantle without an armed guard, so it's got to be locked away in a damn big safe, a safety deposit box, or a museum. Also every crook and con man will be looking me up to see I have any money left. And never before seen distant relatives will be crawling out of the sewers.

Plus the gold digging harlots.

OK, I'm in. :blush:

Gravdigr 04-05-2018 03:21 PM

All of that shit will happen.

It doesn't have to be a whole lot of money, either.

Because people.

Gravdigr 04-09-2018 01:15 PM

April 9, 1865

CSA General Robert E. Lee surrenders the Army of Northern Virginia (26,765 troops) to US General Ulysses S. Grant at Appomattox Court House, Virginia, effectively ending the American Civil War.

Gravdigr 04-16-2018 05:08 PM

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April 16

1943 - ~ Albert Hofmann, Speech on 100th birthday

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Gravdigr 04-25-2018 01:36 PM

Today is ANZAC Day.

Gravdigr 04-26-2018 02:11 PM

April 26, 1986

Chernobyl

BigV 04-27-2018 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 1007569)
April 26, 1986

Chernobyl

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The fire began in Reactor number 2's Turbine 4 (ТГ-4 in Russian) when the turbine was being idled for repairs. A faulty switch caused a surge of current to the turbine, igniting insulating material on some electrical wiring.[14] This subsequently led to hydrogen, used as a turbine coolant, being leaked into the turbine hall "which apparently created the conditions for fire to start in the roof and for one of the trusses supporting the roof to collapse."[15]
Led to HYDROGEN being used as a coolant?!?!

What the fucking fuck?

xoxoxoBruce 04-28-2018 07:33 AM

That's common everywhere but not in the turbine, in the generator.

Gravdigr 04-30-2018 04:21 PM

Not led to hydrogen being used a s a coolant.

Led the hydrogen which was already being used as a turbine coolant to leak from the turbine into the turbine hall.

Hydrogen's cold, y'know.:D

xoxoxoBruce 04-30-2018 04:54 PM

Not the turbine, the generator. They got that wrong. The turbine must cool slowly or it'll break.

Gravdigr 05-01-2018 03:54 PM

I assumed.

Yet another time that assuming has made an ass outta me.

xoxoxoBruce 05-01-2018 06:24 PM

I have the advantage, I spent 17 years working for Westinghouse Steam Turbines, 10 of them traveling to customer's power plants instrumenting turbines for start up.

I had a Spanish solder point a rifle at me because I was smoking a cigarette while adjusting instrumentation on the turbine/generator coupling after they had charged the generator with hydrogen. :haha:

BigV 05-02-2018 10:19 PM

OK

Uncle, uncle.

I learned something, from here. I also read a lot of other words at the same site that didn't produce any actual learning, so, no damage done.

Still. ... a flammable mixture when air is introduced at ratios between 4 and 75%. That seems like a wiiiiiidde band of DO NOT GO THERE. Anyhow, all very interesting. And I'm glad you didn't get shot xoB.

Gravdigr 05-03-2018 01:53 PM

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And I'm glad you didn't get shot xoB.

Well, maybe just a little.

Directly in the buttock.[/Gump]

Carruthers 05-05-2018 07:08 AM

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Collector stopped from selling his £7 eBay picture of Jesse James for £2m after Christie's call in experts

When Justin Whiting discovered a photograph of Jesse James on eBay he thought he stood to make the kind of booty the legendary Wild West outlaw would have been proud of.

After buying the rare photograph of the 19th century bank robber for just £7 in July last year, two American experts told him it was genuine, making it worth as much as £2 million.

But Mr Whiting’s dreams of riding off into the sunset, his saddle bags full of gold, have now been shattered.

Christie’s auctioneers have refused to accept the 3.5 inches by 2.5 inches Victorian tintype photograph for sale, after concluding the man pictured was not in fact Jesse James at all.

It told Mr Whiting: “This photograph would not be suitable for a forthcoming auction with Christie’s.”
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Justin Whiting's photo Jesse James (right) and an existing picture of the outlaw at a similar age.

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The move came after a surviving descendant of James commissioned British expert Mark Bampton who, after closely examining the photograph, found there were too many facial differences for the person it it to be the outlaw.

Mr Bampton compared an existing picture of James at a similar age to the man in the new photograph, using linear analysis of the two images to establish any differences in facial features.

He found that, crucially, the young man in Mr Whiting’s photograph had a much thicker bottom lip than that of James, as well as a “much shorter neck”.

Mr Brampton also compared Mr Whiting’s photograph with another accepted one of James, and found marked differences between the position of the two men’s ears and eyes.

He concluded: “It is clear from my analysis that there are significant differences proving that Justin Whiting’s photograph is not an authentic one of Jesse James.”
Something of a disappointment to both Mr Whiting and historians.

Daily Telegraph

Gravdigr 05-19-2018 01:34 PM

May 19

1780 - It was a dark day for New England this day. No, really, it was dark.

Gravdigr 06-02-2018 03:05 AM

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1953 – Elizabeth II

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Gravdigr 06-11-2018 10:03 AM

June 11

1955 - A crash at the 24 Hrs of Le Mans results in 83 spectators, and one driver, being killed, and 178 others injured.

Wikipedia has a very good breakdown on the disaster, and how it all unfolded.

BigV 06-14-2018 09:52 AM

Fuck!

I had to stop reading at "the race was not red-flagged".

Horrible.

Gravdigr 06-14-2018 03:07 PM

They didn't stop the race because an extremely huge number of ppl would have tried to leave the track all at once. This would have ground all traffic to a halt, for miles, preventing emergency vehicles from reaching the places they were needed. Remember, there were 178 ppl injured. There's no way the emergency vehicles on hand could handle them all. And, even if they could, if the race had been red-flagged (stopped), all those ppl trying to leave would have bottled the ambulances up, and they could not have gotten out. Additional, desperately needed, fire trucks and personnel would not have been able to reach the track, much less the victims.

So, prolly a good thing.

Gravdigr 07-14-2018 01:57 PM

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July 14, 1881

Pat Garrett

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shoots, and kills, Billy The Kid

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outside Fort Sumner, in what was then New Mexico Territory.

Clodfobble 07-14-2018 03:11 PM

Man, you can just look at that picture and know that Billy the Kid would be great at online gaming.

Gravdigr 07-14-2018 03:23 PM

Ya mean like a...



























...first person shooter?

Gravdigr 07-14-2018 03:24 PM

Pat Garrett looks like he could stand behind a barber's chair with a pair of scissors in his hand and tell great stories.

sexobon 07-14-2018 11:12 PM

Q: Who was the best rapper in the old west?

A: Hip-Hop-along Cassidy.

:bolt:

fargon 07-15-2018 06:37 AM

According to the people in Hico Tx , he survived that and lived there. And died in Hamilton Tx. in a nursing home in the early '50s. My Mother says that when they would go visit her Grandparents "Brushy Bill" would be there. He was William Bonney " Billy the Kid".

Carruthers 07-21-2018 07:25 AM

July 21st 1969 - Apollo 11
 
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Apollo 11 was the spaceflight that landed the first two people on the Moon.
Mission commander Neil Armstrong and pilot Buzz Aldrin, both American, landed the lunar module Eagle on July 20, 1969, at 20:17 UTC.
Armstrong became the first person to step onto the lunar surface six hours after landing on July 21 at 02:56:15 UTC; Aldrin joined him about 20 minutes later.
They spent about two and a quarter hours together outside the spacecraft, and collected 47.5 pounds (21.5 kg) of lunar material to bring back to Earth.
Michael Collins piloted the command module Columbia alone in lunar orbit while they were on the Moon's surface.
Armstrong and Aldrin spent 21.5 hours on the lunar surface before rejoining Columbia in lunar orbit.

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Undertoad 07-21-2018 07:44 AM

Lies! Conspiracy!! :D

xoxoxoBruce 07-21-2018 08:09 AM

Yeah, how can a flag fly with no wind? And the shadows are all wrong. Plus my mailman's babysitter's great uncle's neighbor's cousin works at the Hollywood studio here he heard about the subterfuge. :crone:

Diaphone Jim 07-21-2018 10:46 AM

Today's NASA Astro pic is remarkable in its simplicity.
I have always figured in the back of all the minds involved, especially Armstrong's and Aldrin's was the thought:
"Well damn, this SOB really works!"

Gravdigr 07-21-2018 04:36 PM

If they did it (went to the moon) within 7-8 years in the 60s (with 60s tech) why is it gonna take 15 years to do it (go back to the moon) again in the 21st century?

Happy Monkey 07-25-2018 09:03 PM

Because it's not a race anymore.


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And we will want to do more than take selfies when we get there this time.

glatt 07-25-2018 09:04 PM

Because few Americans think it's a priority

sexobon 07-26-2018 06:22 AM

But now The Donald wants to build a hotel there … Lunatic Towers.

Griff 07-26-2018 06:24 AM

Maybe Ralph Crandon can help him out.

xoxoxoBruce 08-01-2018 01:06 AM

Um... Kramden? Pow, to the moon?

Gravdigr 08-23-2018 03:45 PM

Can you imagine trying to make The Honeymooners in today's social climate?

xoxoxoBruce 08-23-2018 05:03 PM

Or a lot of other shows from the Golden age of TV.
Lots of people found them silly and stupid but not offensive.

Happy Monkey 08-27-2018 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 1013923)
Can you imagine trying to make The Honeymooners in today's social climate?

King of Queens? I don't watch many sitcoms, but I suspect the formula is still in heavy rotation. There was more to the Honeymooners than Ralph threatening to beat up Alice, and it could survive the removal of that aspect.

Gravdigr 08-28-2018 04:55 PM

But that's the aspect we speak of.

Happy Monkey 08-28-2018 05:37 PM

If you're talking about making exactly the original Honeymooners, I think that a bigger obstacle would be that the cast is all dead. But if you're talking about a show like the Honeymooners, I think we never really stopped making them.

Gravdigr 08-29-2018 02:41 PM

What's the last 30 min sit com you saw where the main character threatened his wife with physical assault? While shaking his fist at her in close proximity.

Happy Monkey 08-29-2018 03:30 PM

Like I said, there are many reasons you couldn't make exactly "The Honeymooners" today. The iconic cast. The audience wouldn't accept black and white. The aspect ratio doesn't match today's TVs. It would now be a "period piece", when it was originally written as contemporary. And yes, the threats of assault for comedic affect.


But making a new "Honeymooners" today, all of those could be changed and retain the formula. The only real issue with changing it would be the cast. They'd be hard pressed to get one that worked as well.


Animation is another story, though. "The Simpsons" is a take on "The Honeymooners" formula, and while Homer doesn't threaten Marge, he does actually choke out Bart as a "pow, bang, to the moon"-style recurring gag. And "South Park" and various Adult Swim offerings regularly do worse.

sexobon 09-01-2018 11:54 AM

Four-hundred eighty-six years ago today, King Henry VIII granted his future wife, Anne Boleyn, the noble title Marquess of Pembroke. Unfortunately for her, marrying a king did not help her get ahead -- or even keep the one she already had. - Alexa.

Carruthers 10-11-2018 05:40 AM

Apollo 7 - October 11th 1968
 
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Fifty years ago today, the first manned flight of the Apollo program was launched.

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The Apollo 7 crew was commanded by Walter M. Schirra, with senior pilot / navigator Donn F. Eisele, and pilot / systems engineer R. Walter Cunningham.
Official crew titles were made consistent with those that would be used for the manned lunar landing missions: Eisele was Command Module Pilot and Cunningham was Lunar Module Pilot.
Their mission was Apollo's 'C' mission, an 11-day Earth-orbital test flight to check out the redesigned Block II CSM with a crew on board.
It was the first time a Saturn IB vehicle put a crew into space; Apollo 7 was the first three-person American space mission, and the first to include a live TV broadcast from an American spacecraft.
It was launched on October 11, 1968, from what was then known as Cape Kennedy Air Force Station, Florida.
Despite tension between the crew and ground controllers, the mission was a complete technical success, giving NASA the confidence to send Apollo 8 into orbit around the Moon two months later.
The flight would prove to be the final space flight for all of its three crew members—and the only one for both Cunningham and Eisele—when it splashed down in the Atlantic Ocean on October 22, 1968.
It was also the only manned launch from Launch Complex 34, as well as the last launch from the complex.
It's breathtaking that between October 1968 and July 1969 (Apollo 11) a total of five manned flights in the program were successfully completed.
Has there ever been such a time in the history of exploration?

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xoxoxoBruce 10-11-2018 10:27 AM

Thank you Margaret Hamilton.

Gravdigr 11-10-2018 02:06 PM

November 11, 1975

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Does any one know where the love of God goes
When the waves turn the minutes to hours?
The searches all say they'd have made Whitefish Bay
If they'd put fifteen more miles behind her
They might have split up or they might have capsized
They may have broke deep and took water
And all that remains is the faces and the names
Of the wives and the sons and the daughters
November 11, 1871

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Doctor Livingstone, I presume?

Gravdigr 11-20-2018 10:17 AM

November 20, 1820

Call me Ishmael.

1947

Phil and Liz tie the knot.

Undertoad 11-22-2018 09:15 AM

50 years ago today, the first interracial kiss on American network TV is aired - between Captain Kirk and Lt. Uhura.

glatt 11-22-2018 09:31 AM

This is the kind of fact you can just throw out there during a lull in conversation at Thanksgiving Dinner.

Thanks, UT!

xoxoxoBruce 11-22-2018 10:14 AM

Add, when Nyota Uhura(Nichelle Nichols) tried to quit the show Dr Martin Luther King pleaded with her not to, so she stayed.

BigV 11-25-2018 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 1019366)
50 years ago today, the first interracial kiss on American network TV is aired - between Captain Kirk and Lt. Uhura.

I don't remember being scandalized by this at the time, but it's obviously a landmark moment in television history. It's been a normal thing in my mind since then.

Undertoad 11-25-2018 11:38 AM

It's weird to consider how tied-down network TV was back in the day.

I remember that the simple sound of a toilet flush was a wildly hilarious gag on "All In the Family", partly because it was so unexpected. I remember that most people think "Brady Bunch" was the first time a married couple was shown in the same bed (google research shows it wasn't the first, but that people thought that, just goes to show how rare it was).

sexobon 11-25-2018 11:53 AM

This site has a nice short video about it and makes the distinction between first interracial kiss on TV and the first on American network TV:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/tune...ard/vp-BBPXUZh

BigV 11-25-2018 11:55 AM

It was the product of the people producing it, and what got produced was what the people paying for it, commercial purchasers, thought their customers would like/watch. Of course, there were some other synergies in play and it's hard to say what parts were chickens and which were eggs, but it seems clear to me that what we had available to us to consume was the product of those with means and agency, and they showed what they saw and lived.

Undertoad 11-25-2018 12:19 PM

One problem was, network TV was limited to what everyone in the goddamn country thought was decent, and what the FCC would take seriously when considering revoking licenses.


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