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BigV 12-30-2011 05:56 PM

Ok, fair enough.

What does it mean to circle a tree? To you, that is.

glatt 12-30-2011 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 783944)
And I'm sorry for losing it earlier.

It's all good. I understand what you are saying about the skwerl. I just have a different perspective.

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Originally Posted by BigV (Post 783948)
If I walk around your house when you're home, have I circled your house? Have I circled you? In what way does it matter how you're moving inside your house as I circle it with respect to my circling you?

this

infinite monkey 12-30-2011 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus (Post 783956)
As Deming would say, we can't agree on an answer without appropriate operational definitions.

I get so excited when you get all QA on me. ;)

footfootfoot 12-30-2011 08:08 PM

And always keeps the tree between himself and the hunter

This is the crucial bit of information.

Consider a bicycle wheel for example. The hole in the rim for the valve stem is opposite the seam of the rim. The wheel revolves around the axle. The valve stem and seam each go around the axle every revolution. They do not go around each other. They do go around the position the other previously occupied however. Compare this to a ratchet wrench. The socket is the axis, the handle goes around the axis, but the handle does not go around itself.
The squirrel always keeps the tree between himself and the hunter. The tree is the axis, the squirrel is the seam on the rim and the hunter is the valve stem.

No, the hunter does not walk around his gun. His gun is not stationary, it moves with him. He may walk around the location his gun used to be, but that is not the same as walking around his gun. Unless he has one of those special mag-lev guns that just hangs in mid air while you circumambulate around it. Otherwise, if it is a normal gun then he will be taking it with him when he walks around the tree.

footfootfoot 12-30-2011 08:33 PM

FFS here's the next one: (I have updated it so you modern "new math" educated folks can understand it.


Setting aside their differences, Classicman and Infinite Monkey pool their money and invest in some very tiny houses on very tiny lots in a very sketchy neighborhood.
Classic invests $5000. and Infi invests $3000 and they buy three identical houses. Classic and Infi each choose a home for them own selfs. They then sell the remaining house to some complete rube for $8000. How should they divvy the cash?

Clodfobble 12-30-2011 09:28 PM

Classic owns 5/8ths of the company stock, Infi owns 3/8ths. So the dividends go 5/8ths to Classic ($5,000) and 3/8ths to Infi ($3,000.)

It should also be noted that when they sell Infi's house, she will owe 5/8ths of those proceeds to Classic as well.

monster 12-30-2011 11:05 PM

Is the understanding that they are each to own their own house after the transaction? If so, they should divide the money as clod says then infi should give classic $2,000 so he will end up with $7,000 and a house and she will end up with $1000 and a house (he owns 5/8 of her shouse, she owns 3/8 of his, assume all three houses worth 8,000 at that time, so the difference is 2/8)

But that was too easy so it must be wrong.

jimhelm 12-30-2011 11:47 PM

You forgot to factor in the divorce attorneys cut. They both get zilch.

classicman 12-30-2011 11:54 PM

I get all the money - That way I 'll have a down payment on a new Maxima.

footfootfoot 12-31-2011 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 783991)
Is the understanding that they are each to own their own house after the transaction? If so, they should divide the money as clod says then infi should give classic $2,000 so he will end up with $7,000 and a house and she will end up with $1000 and a house (he owns 5/8 of her shouse, she owns 3/8 of his, assume all three houses worth 8,000 at that time, so the difference is 2/8)

But that was too easy so it must be wrong.

You are wrong; your answer was right.
You are wrong about being wrong so your answer is correct.

And now for something completely different:

BigV 12-31-2011 11:23 AM

1.111111111111 bushels

total minus 10 percent equals 90 percent.

90 percent (what the miller gave the customer) equals one bushel.

.9*total = 1 bushel

(.9*total)/.9 = (1 bushel)/.9

total == 1.11111111111 bushels

Clodfobble 12-31-2011 02:05 PM

Oh no, I think we've established that when you are giving part of something to someone, the answer is to borrow some extra so you don't have to work in decimals.

BigV 12-31-2011 02:21 PM

LULZ!

footfootfoot 12-31-2011 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BigV (Post 784077)
1.111111111111 bushels

total minus 10 percent equals 90 percent.

90 percent (what the miller gave the customer) equals one bushel.

.9*total = 1 bushel

(.9*total)/.9 = (1 bushel)/.9

total == 1.11111111111 bushels

please state your answer as a fraction in order to claim your point for the winning answer.

footfootfoot 12-31-2011 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 784101)
Oh no, I think we've established that when you are giving part of something to someone, the answer is to borrow some extra so you don't have to work in decimals.

Wise ass.
When you are dividing an entire living creature that may be the case as a fractional piece of livestock is a) of limited value and b) more than likely no longer living and therefore no longer livestock.

Bushels of grain can be divided fractionally so there is no need to borrow anything. However it is a pain in the ass to measure out 1/9 of a bushel.

1/9 of 8 gallons is .888888888888889 gallons...


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