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Spexxvet 12-02-2009 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by lookout123 (Post 614121)
Insanely high inflation would be my guess. All the dumbshits who had twice the house they could afford would now have a free and clear home and available cash to do whatever they want with. I'm guessing boats and hummers would top the list.

Think of all the jobs that would create! That's a good thing, as long as the jobs are created in the US.

TheMercenary 12-04-2009 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 614187)
Think of all the jobs that would create! That's a good thing, as long as the jobs are created in the US.

Not to worry about that, the Congress and Obama already promised us in Feb 2009 that the last spending bill would create "hundreds of thousands of jobs."

Radar 12-04-2009 02:13 PM

Actually, it's already created more than 600,000 jobs and counting, and it also saved every remaining job at GM and several large banking institutions.

TheMercenary 12-04-2009 02:16 PM

:lol: sure.

Spexxvet 12-04-2009 02:59 PM

We could live in Spain. link

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The Euro area unemployment rate remained steady at 9.8% in October 2009, the same level as in the previous month.


For the EU27 countries as a whole, the unemployment rate rose slightly to 9.3% which compares with 9.2% for September 2009 and 7.3% October last year.

Among the Member States, the lowest unemployment rates were recorded in the Netherlands (3.7%) and Austria (4.7%), and the highest rates in Latvia (20.9%) and Spain (19.3%).

In October 2009, the youth unemployment rate (under-25s) was 20.6% in the euro area and 20.7% in the EU27. The lowest rate was observed in the Netherlands (7.2%), and the highest rates in Spain (42.9%) and Latvia (33.6% in the third quarter of 2009).

As a comparison with the rest of the world, in October 2009, the unemployment rate was 10.2% in the USA and 5.1% in Japan.

Radar 12-04-2009 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 614888)
:lol: sure.

Laugh all you want, but it's a documented fact.

http://www.recovery.gov

classicman 12-04-2009 03:17 PM

. . . documented by Obama and Company

Radar 12-04-2009 03:24 PM

And they have more credibility than any of those who who attempt to discredit them because every bit of it is readily verifiable complete with the name of the company doing the project, the project type and location, and how many jobs were created for the project. It would be an easy matter to contact the company to verify the listing and since the company doing the work submitted the paperwork detailing how many jobs were created, it's unlikely they would be different than what you see on the recovery.gov website.

TheMercenary 12-04-2009 05:32 PM

Every single non-partisan organization who has looked at the numbers dispute the lies from the White House.

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/11/rec...s-get-rougher/

Radar 12-04-2009 06:28 PM

There are no lies from the white house; at least not yet with this administration. Those problems are all related to the contractors filling their paperwork incorrectly and not knowing which congressional district they are in or in not reporting the jobs created for the money they got or vice-versa.

Nobody said contractors were the best in the world at paperwork. The website reports the information coming in on the forms. No part of any discrepancies has anything to do with the white house or dishonesty on the part of the white house or even those sending in the reports, though it does seem to point at some contractors who are hopefully better at construction than they are at paperwork.

The factcheck.org article you linked to says the GAO says the numbers are plus or minus 50,000 which means at the worst, the stimulus package has created nearly 600,000 jobs.

TheMercenary 12-04-2009 06:44 PM

The article says:

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even the government watchdog whom the Obama administration put in charge of monitoring stimulus spending said today that the White House had been too quick to take credit for saving or creating 640,000 jobs. Earl Devaney admitted to members of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee that there were too many errors in the reporting to know the true number of jobs.

Radar 12-04-2009 07:02 PM

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GAO found almost 4,000 reports that showed jobs created or saved but no money received or expended. Those reports represented more than 50,000 jobs. Recovery.gov’s total job count is 640,329.
640,329 - 50,000 = 590,329

Also discrepancy doesn't mean lie. It's nothing more than clerical errors not by the whitehouse, but by those filling out the paperwork for money they got from the stimulus package.

TheMercenary 12-04-2009 08:47 PM

Sorry, that is not what most people see.

AP caught them in the same lie in Oct. And they tracked down how they fudged the numbers.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20091029/D9BKMVMG0.html

Any way you are pissing in the wind. Even if the numbers were close to being true Californication alone lost over 600,000 jobs in the last year.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/laus.nr0.htm

TheMercenary 12-04-2009 08:59 PM

More doubts about job creation

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091119/..._stimulus_jobs

Urbane Guerrilla 12-07-2009 01:55 AM

Schadenfreude, Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium...
 
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Originally Posted by Radar (Post 614886)
Actually, it's already created more than 600,000 jobs and counting, and it also saved every remaining job at GM and several large banking institutions.

You take that Democratic pronouncement seriously? You're in worse shape than I thought.

If you were an honest man, you'd've changed your handle to Lampwick months ago. What a wee funny Democratic puppet man. Dance, puppet, dance to the Socialists' tune, dance... dance.


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