I bet they'd be different now.

Why all the smoke and mirrors? Why have the government give you 2% with one hand and take away 1% with the other? It seems to me all the paperwork would end up costing extra, too. If the government in its divine generosity wants to give my elderly neighbor a social security pension of $700.00/month, then take back $50 (or whatever) a month, why not just send her $650.00 and be done with it? :eyebrow:

But...if it was taxed at source, then there would be no need to send out one amount and have another amount come back in.

*Chuckles* I think that fairly accurately sets out our stalls aye :P

In truth I wasn't trying to persuade you m'dear...but you raised the spectre of class war and I'm never going to be able to stay out of that now, am I?

Actually, I am quite proud of myself for sticking to basic ideas about how I feel a modern (post marxist and post laissez-faire) society can enrich the lives of its citizens and not going off on a massive tangential leap into a discussion about the nexus points of class and gender construction in matters of taxation and benefits...'cause that's where my head's at right now...

I just cashed in my change at the machine. Went to get a free coffee with my bulit up coffee accrual. And now I have to come here and work on Sunday as a counter-person. I just wanted coffee.

Due to real lack of interest in my resume, sparse job offerings in occupations other than the medical field, I am so fuc***. My husband laughs and says I don't have to do it. But I am broke. I just can't seem to kick back and spend my husband's hard earned money. Where in the hell did this pride thing come from? It's annoying at best.

Why can't people quit saying over-qualified at the wrong moment, instead of not even looking, and saying come in on Sunday?

You may think I'm an ass, but refilling ketchup bottles, and wiping them down is really going to chap my ass. Let's not forget the post wipe-down scrutiny of said, ketchup bottles. Even if it ends up being met with approval I think I'm going to go put my head in the toilet. And flush.

Cicero, I have a perfectly good job for you here in Colorado ;) And I won't make you wipe any ketchup bottles. "Overqualified" is not in my dictionary.

Well it's a good thing I already started packing then, isn't it? ;)

Yes it is. Be here by Monday and I will show you the ropes. Oh, btw, since you are also the sales dept for our new furniture company, I hope you are bringing your nice dress clothes, too. :D

See, that's how it should be. Case is right on!! :)

That's the attitude. And the know-how.

I'm so happy with that, I am not even going to make any wood jokes.

Oh Go on.

I think the entire point of the American republic's (or republics') existence, economics-wise, is that at bottom "the needs of the classes" don't conflict. Everyone has to make a living, and that isn't open to dispute. Any differences of detail are usually differences of scale.

I asked tw,

He couldn't, because there wasn't any.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122403045717834693.html

Who was in charge of regulation?

In the summer of 2005, a bill emerged from the Senate Banking Committee that considerably tightened regulations on Fannie and Freddie, including controls over their capital and their ability to hold portfolios of mortgages or mortgage-backed securities. All the Republicans voted for the bill in committee; all the Democrats voted against it. To get the bill to a vote in the Senate, a few Democratic votes were necessary to limit debate. This was a time for the leadership Sen. Obama says he can offer, but neither he nor any other Democrat stepped forward.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122403045717834693.html

Stop it with the facts already Merc - Geez! I already voted and you know it just pisses people off.