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Sundae 04-15-2014 02:50 PM

Felt a lot better today.
Had an excellent interview at my current employers. Location isn't ideal though, as it's in an area with higher rent.

And I have another interview with another supermarket tomorrow.
Better location, more hours offered, but a change of employer so I'd need to work out my notice, and I'm apprehensive that the position might not be one I will enjoy.

Of course I haven't been offered either job yet!
But it will be a dilemma if I am offered both...

Anyway, any further update will hopefully NOT be in this thread, just wanted to close this off.

Carruthers 04-15-2014 03:04 PM

Best of luck, Sundae!:)

Do you know how long you will have to wait before they let you know?

Sundae 04-15-2014 04:21 PM

Not specifically, but I would be surprised if I hadn't heard back from Waitrose by Thursday.
They have another group interview tomorrow, but there were only six of us at this one, and I was old enough to be each of the other five's mother. Turns out it was only advertised very briefly (I thought I'd come across the advert very late, but not so much) and it was very vague regardinh hours and job role. My guess is that they needed extra cover and needed it fast and if only teens applied they'd make up more and shorter shifts. With a large student population on their doorstep they can afford to tinker with things like this.

Me applying might have upset the apple cart a little, because with no exaggeration I can say I have experience they would not have expected from the net they cast.

All the kids were super-smart and clued up, don't get me wrong. But my counter, checkout and cafe experience within the same company can't really be matched by a seventeen year old Nigerian student who has no previous work experience. Even if she is a medical student who has been accepted onto a prestigious course a year early, is a Student Ambassador and plans to be a paediatrician. I mean there's impressive, and then there's hit-the-ground-running useful ;)

Worried about tomorrow having read the standard brief.
I'll be turning up without the correct paperwork for a start as I wasn't expecting this interview. I know they know my circumstances, but I hate to look disorganised.
And I have to get a taxi there as its too late to scout out the location. It's at least two miles out of town and I have done too much walking today to trust my feets not to bleed. I also fear getting lost, especially as I can't print out the helpful map they sent to refer back to, which worryingly seems to assume you are travelling by car anyway...

Worry, worry, worry.

This time next month I'll look back on this and laugh.
And laugh and laugh, until the nice nurse puts the comfy jacket with the long sleeves on me again.

BigV 04-15-2014 04:37 PM

I hope all that works in your favor Sundae!

limey 04-15-2014 04:40 PM

Good luck! I've been thinking of you all day, and will continue to do so tomorrow! XXX


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orthodoc 04-15-2014 04:45 PM

Good luck, Sundae. Thinking of you, and will be doing so tomorrow. xxoo

Clodfobble 04-15-2014 05:07 PM

I'd hire you over some Nigerian teen prodigy any day of the week! ;)

xoxoxoBruce 04-15-2014 06:09 PM

Hmm, Sundae?
French maid costume?
Very dusty bottom shelves?
Yeah, that works. :frog:

Carruthers 04-15-2014 11:02 PM

It's quarter-to-still-dark but I think that I'm awake enough to wish you all best for today's events, Sundae!

Now, as it is Wednesday I shall be in Aylesbury in a couple of hours to do the weekly shopping. :eek:

Wish me luck!:thumb:

Sundae 05-05-2014 03:07 AM

Oh god. I've stalled.
I have honestly just stopped.
I probably only have 2-3 hours worth of work to do, but I can't start and I cant face it.

I will.
I mean, I have to.
And this happens every time I move. But I've still not learned how to deal with it.

limey 05-05-2014 04:13 AM

What's upsetting you today?
 
I do that with major chores, too. Not much left to do, and it'd be so good to get it all finished, and I just stop. And knit, or do something more fun. I don't think we're alone in that, either ;).
Imma gonna turn up with that van on Wednesday morning, ready or not! X


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xoxoxoBruce 05-05-2014 08:48 AM

Quote:

I don't think we're alone in that, either.
Hell no, some of us have made it an art form. :thumb:

Limey, thanks for herding the wench into her new digs, you're the best.:notworthy

Sundae 05-05-2014 09:10 AM

I have a lot more done than the last time I posted.
I managed to start after all.
Mum & Dad are having a snooze downstairs, which is why I am dallying here.

Diz is more unsettled than I've ever known him.
iPad on lap + fractious jumpy-jump cat + frazzled human = the desire get the walloping hands out. But of all the bad things I may be, an animal abuser isn't one.
And yes he is probably going to pee on the carpet given his current stress levels, but I'm moving out. Ha.

All I can do I try not to make it worse for him by shouting.
Even if I want to pee on the carpet myself right now.

limey 05-05-2014 09:29 AM

Attagirl! Should I buy some incontinence pads for the van seats?

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Sundae 05-05-2014 10:08 AM

I can hold it in ;)
And Diz has some knockout tablets.

Washed "his" two jumpers (woolly sweaters).
Going to sleep with them tonight and tomorrow night.
They won't go in the cat carrier, but they will go with him to the cattery.
And if he pees all over them then they will go in the bin afterwards; i hope not, they belonged to him and Dylan since I brought them back to my place eight years ago.

Got caught up reviewing old photos.
Gosh, don't you sometimes waste film time and money and emotion on people who don't deserve it?
I can only excuse having so many photos of the Evil Ex on the fact we went to some pretty cool places together. All of which I paid for of course.
All of which have now been binned because, really, I saw them with my own eyes and I don't need to see his face in front of the sights to remember them.

Poetry books packed.
All books packed in fact.
Three library books left to keep me sane/ be returned by Mum.

Camera has no charger. Or at least charger can't now be found.
Great.
Dad! [shakes fist]
Cheap digital camera needed, preferably with charger.
Birthday 1st July, address on application.

As I said before, they have done so much for me.
It's just aggravating that my own personal camera was lost and has still never turned up, along with many cables, chargers, converters etc. and now this. It's such a waste. Sigh.
Keep everything crossed that the battery holds out tomorrow. I'll hold off on the usual train station pics to preserve as much juice as I can.

I have a job. I have a flat. I have a £25 Waitrose voucher. I have friends. Good friends.
No crappy camera can compare to that.

Right, back to the coalface.
Bite sized pieces.

Undertoad 05-18-2014 11:07 AM

A friend of mine has decided, after numerous cancer episodes, that she will no longer use western medicine to treat her cancer, and will now employ holistic treatment including veganism.

Her husband is a person of science and is appalled... yet knowing he cannot control his spouse. Their three kids ages 7 to 12 hang in the balance.

DanaC 05-18-2014 11:19 AM

Oh that is horrible. Upsetting from every angle.

Clodfobble 05-18-2014 11:30 AM

I'm genuinely sorry, UT. No kid should have to watch a parent battle cancer, let alone potentially lose. Sucks all around.

sexobon 05-18-2014 04:58 PM

Sorry UT. You didn't say what kind of cancer she has or suggest a rationale for her treatment decision; so, I'll speculate she has already fought the good fight using Western medicine and now wants things to run their course before her kids are old enough to feel responsible for her. Pursuing alternative medicine sends a message to her family that she is still trying for them, even though SHE may have reached acceptance, so that they (especially the kids) won't ever think she didn't love them enough to keep trying to stay with them. :2cents:

fargon 05-18-2014 05:01 PM

We are Praying for her.

Undertoad 05-18-2014 05:03 PM

I don't know all the details sb.

monster 05-18-2014 09:03 PM

FWIW my friend did a similar thing and she's still with us. I'm not an "alternative" meds person, but I do think the power of the mind is strong. if you believe in the path you are taking, it seems to do the world of good.....

xoxoxoBruce 05-20-2014 01:21 AM

Worked for Steve Jobs. :rolleyes:

wolf 05-22-2014 01:02 AM

UT, I have a friend who is a really solid cancer surgeon who also uses complimentary medicine.

Undertoad 05-22-2014 07:21 AM

I will try to get more information. This is a good friend's wife and they have played it very close to the vest so I didn't even know her cancer recurred. And it's one of those things where he told me in an aside while she was out getting something, and then told me it was not a topic for discussion when she came back.

Griff 05-23-2014 08:48 AM

Sometime cancer takes the fight out of you. My Mom fought and beat breast cancer but didn't have the heart to fight her liver cancer later. Until you know what she knows, you probably can't judge her decision making.

xoxoxoBruce 05-23-2014 03:03 PM

People who have cancer rear it's ugly head a second time, now know what they face, like the doctors do. I think that why doctors tend to not fight it in some cases, but they can not make that decision for you, only you can.
That's why it's important to talk to your doctor and make your preferences known, before you end up in a living hell controlled by some well meaning relative.

Big Sarge 05-25-2014 05:52 PM

an investigator for the police department I used to be chief at was found deceased. I'm not enough in the loop to know much now. I had served with him previously in the military. I just have that sinking feeling in the gut that this is a suicide or accidental overdose

Lola Bunny 05-25-2014 05:58 PM

:-(

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Clodfobble 05-25-2014 09:47 PM

Sorry, Sarge.

BigV 05-26-2014 12:11 AM

Sorry Sarge. :(

limey 05-26-2014 03:45 AM

So sorry, Sarge.


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DanaC 05-26-2014 04:53 AM

Ah damn, that's sad. Sorry Sarge.

footfootfoot 05-26-2014 11:03 AM

My sympathies, Sarge.

orthodoc 05-26-2014 07:18 PM

I'm sorry, Sarge.

Nirvana 05-31-2014 08:36 PM

I always want to write things but none of my stuff is as bad as people dying :(

monster 05-31-2014 09:11 PM

You mean you are upset but it doesn't seem important enough to mention?\, N? It's not a competition, just tell us what's bothering you. If you want, find another thread with a similar title. or start one. This is Nothingland, after all. :) Spill the beans, what's sinking your submarine today?

sexobon 05-31-2014 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Nirvana (Post 900220)
I always want to write things but none of my stuff is as bad as people dying :(

Doesn't matter, just start out with "I HAVE SIIINNNNNNNED ..."

Nirvana 05-31-2014 10:58 PM

I am not looking for a career I have/had that, but I liked working at the candy factory until last WED I have been there for almost 6 months, never late, get along well with cow orkers. Immediate boss claims she put my name in for full time . On Wed I found out she had put in another gal's name because even though she has been there a shorter time and I TRAINED her all of a sudden she has full time. So what am I chopped liver? :neutral:

I like the lady that got full time we get on well. But her work record was not as spotless as mine and I have been there longer and my mantra is any job worth doing is worth doing well rest assured if I made the candy it was very very good. Long time associates cow orkers tell me I was robbed. It was a kick in the gut. :thepain:

My immediate boss does not even know that this lady is always telling me how she could do a better job of running the dept we are in than immediate boss. I don't want to be the boss and micro manage people [yuck] It is only apparent to me that IB >[immediate boss] has let the weasel in her hen house. I hate work place drama and sophomoric games. :mad:

Now I feel like not doing the extra stuff I did to help immediate boss do her job better. And what a face slap to train someone that takes away what was supposed to be my FT position. I cannot be mad at the person that got FT she deserves to have it too. :neutral: [/spilled beans]

xoxoxoBruce 05-31-2014 11:19 PM

Makes me wonder if the weasel has connections?
It sounds odd simply IB told you she had submitted you. :confused:

Maybe IB is told to submit the names of all the people ready for full time status, and someone else makes the decision?
Or your spotless record, strong work ethic, and helpfulness doing extra stuff, is perceived as a threat to IB.

Are you going to tell IB you're disappointed, or let it ride?

sexobon 05-31-2014 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nirvana (Post 900231)
... My immediate boss does not even know that this lady is always telling me how she could do a better job of running the dept we are in than immediate boss. I don't want to be the boss and micro manage people [yuck] ...

Or maybe IB knows more than you think, feels secure, and figures she can use a go getter full time to lighten her own workload and as a substitute making it easier to get time off whenever she wants. Does that seem plausible?

Nirvana 05-31-2014 11:49 PM

We already have a second IB she has been there 4 years. She runs the Dept when IB is off. I would say from observation that my IB fears losing her job so what she did made no sense. PTO is cumulative and all anyone has to do is put in a request 24 hrs prior and even unexpected absence is dealt with in a point system and after 90 days the points fall off. It is very easy to take off work.

Last Wed before I knew they hired lady FT our shift finished the most candy of any shift ever with me being the top "producer" almost double of anyone else. I am [was] the go getter.

sexobon 05-31-2014 11:54 PM

So, I take it you think they're sleeping together!

Nirvana 05-31-2014 11:54 PM

IB knows I am disappointed claims I am still getting full time. I know she feels I am a threat and I have told her I will never be the boss. I am a very confident person this all smells like Jr High school where you could not be smart and attractive and have friends...in this case its above average work performance and I point out infractions like someone who blows their nose and does not change their gloves:eyebrow: and some people perceive this as me picking on them REALLY? And the guys that think they should be mixing candy with their ass crack hanging out :yeldead:

Nirvana 05-31-2014 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 900240)
So, I take it you think they're sleeping together!

OMG yes! mutt and Jeff ebony and ivory [not really] :)

sexobon 06-01-2014 12:31 AM

This may not apply to you; but, there is a generic consideration with businesses in which part timers don't get healthcare benefits while full time employees do. Some businesses will first grant full time status to those part time employees least likely to use healthcare benefits to keep the employer's insurance costs down. It could be that an employee already has healthcare benefits elsewhere (e.g. Medicare, spouse's employer), has no preexisting conditions on their pre-employment physical; or, is statistically at lower risk (e.g. age bracket). Since employers who offer healthcare benefits must by law insure anyone eligible under their policy, this can be an issue.

Nirvana 06-01-2014 10:43 AM

I thought of this Sexobon but the lady is the same age roughly and she has nothing I asked her because we were talking about her 8 yr old and she said no health coverage for her one day. I can only speak for me I have no pre existing conditions and I am a non smoker, non drinker. They have security cameras so anyone claiming not to smoke is on camera doing it in the designated smoking area.
The issue may be that they don't think I need the job? I dunno I just feel very disrespected. I guess I will have to change how I feel about it.

Nirvana 06-01-2014 12:15 PM

I think I expected this company to abide by their own guidelines for recruitment which state; " Candidates with no more than 2 combined attendance/ performance points and a minimum of 6 months in their current position."

This lady had 2 points and has only been in her current position 3 months. :rolleyes: [whine whine whine]

limey 06-01-2014 12:48 PM

It's a bummer when the company don't abide by their own rules and you know you're the best candidate.


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sexobon 06-01-2014 12:54 PM

Maybe she had a good sob story. Sometimes those who talk big turn out to be the biggest grovelers behind closed doors and there are bosses who fancy themselves social workers; however, their generosity towards someone with a good sob story never comes at their own expense, it always comes at the expense of the recipient's peers.

xoxoxoBruce 06-01-2014 12:59 PM

The people that write the rules are seldom the people who are supposed to follow or apply them. Without enforcement there's rarely compliance, but if you bring it to their attention you're a troublemaker so you lose either way. This is not unique to the candy company, it's universal in companies big and small.

Nirvana 06-01-2014 03:06 PM

Thanks Limey
Sexobon you have probably hit the nail on the head and xoxoxoBruce unless they ask me in an exit interview I have no plans to bring anything to their attention.

monster 06-01-2014 08:40 PM

ugh, N, sucks. Maybe ther'es a better FT position around the corner, one that needs someone more reliable. maybe.

plthijinx 06-03-2014 04:32 PM

this could go in a number of threads but here goes. yeah, i haven't been around in a while (thank Sarge for motivating me to this post as he contacted me on fb and not in so many words said it's not the same around here....BIG hand shake and thank you sir! Lola Bunny too!)

here goes.

since roughly early February I have been averaging 55-60 hour work weeks and with the overtime i have been paying off past fuck up debts and what not but that's the best part of it.

you see it's like this. just because i am loyal to my career and job, especially since they let me get back into the industry before i could pass a b/g check, does NOT give my department manager/lead permission to treat me, or any other co-worker for that matter, like shit.

Sunday prior to Memorial Day I went to the ER with what I thought was a heart attack. some of y'all saw this on my fb but i digress. the pressure that i have been under in the last several months at work finally caught up and i admit that i can only handle so much and that sunday was one straw shy of breaking that dang hump day camels' back. yeah, that came this last friday. not once during the week (my g/f and now life partner, Leigh, called both the engineer i work with and the department lead to let them know that i was having what we thought was a heart attack.

turns out that it was nothing more than stress thankfully but that's not the point. when i returned to work never once did my dept lead ask me if i could handle working long hours still or for that matter how i was feeling health wise. i don't want, nor do i require, sugar coatings. having managed crews before i know of all people to find out and pay attention to your crew and their moral.

monday morning i quit my job. flat out quit. my engineer called me asking where i was and why i wasn't at work yet. told him i quit. he said "come again??" i said yep. can't take this bullshit anymore. scheduling is a nightmare, dept lead treats people like shit including you and everyone else. i'm done. i'll be in in the next couple days to turn my laptop in.

with that he wished me well.

5 minutes later dept. lead calls me asking me "wtf are you doing?!?!" i said i can't take your bullshit anymore dude.

last friday he had called me at my desk screaming at me to get out of "his" drawing and the only reason i was in it was to take measurements for a BOM or bill of material to give the contractor an idea of items to purchase to complete the job. anyway, screaming is putting it mildly. i even quoted him on the phone monday morning when he asked for an example. i said....."And I quote...'GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY GODDAMN DRAWING!!! WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING IN MY GODDAMN DRAWING?!?!?" to this at the moment i replied alright....fuck you i'll get out of it. then later he calls me again about something else to which i responded "I can't read your fucking mind!"

fuck it. i'm getting even more worked up. i'd not post this but spent too much time typing it. more later.

nutshell is this......he said what do you need.

a couple more days to chill.

go ahead...take them. see you wednesday?

yeah. see you then.

Gravdigr 06-03-2014 04:52 PM

Well damn, Fred. I got nothing for ya, bud. I probably couldn't have held out as long as ya did. Money is one thing, but, bullshit weighs more than money sometimes.

Chill if/while ya can, man. Take it easy as ya can. Breathe for a little while.

Good to hear from ya, even if'n it were bad news. Might turn out to be good news, though. Chin up.:comfort:

BigV 06-03-2014 04:53 PM

I'm glad you're ok plt, seriously.

I hope you gain much relaxation from your time away, but from my experience, and what I've read from you, more than a couple days will be needed to make things right. You said, correctly, understatedly, that they don't have the right to treat you like shit. Damn skippy they don't. But!! unless you stop them, they might well try, on purpose or accidentally, following their own best interests and fuck yours, or from just plain ignorance. You said you can't read they guy's mind; he can't read yours either. Apparently, they *CAN* comprehend when you say fuck off, I quit, so... you have some channel of communication open, at least.

Man, there ain't no-body gonna look after you, in the workplace, like YOU. YOU train those around you how to treat you, and it sounds like the lesson you gave them finally clicked for them. JFC, plt, don't take their shit, life is too fucking short. Don't let those fuckers make your life shorter.

plthijinx 06-03-2014 05:14 PM

Ty grave and v I hear you. And you are 100% right. Guess lead thought that since I have done time...could be over thinking this.....that he thinks he can treat me like shit. Or thought. He's an alpha and so am I however I have always let him run the show because it's his to run. I do have respect for the man in what he can juggle but s.o.b. has bit off more than he/we can handle. We do the impossible in getting jobs out. 2 weeks from scratch to finish on a facility phase II expansion. Released half week ago friday (in 4 days) and the rest last friday.

plthijinx 06-03-2014 05:17 PM

On the droid now so editing is limited so to speak due to laziness. On the driveway having a nice cigar from Paul, my roommate, and trying to chillax. Need a vacation though. You nailed that one.

Lola Bunny 06-03-2014 05:29 PM

Dude, I'm so sorry to hear about your situation. I thought Leigh was gonna get you to smoke less! Hhehe....I tease. That was no way to quit. Hopefully you can work things out. It was suck to lose a job, but it also sucks to work in a horrible condition. Good luck!

glatt 06-03-2014 06:11 PM

They NEED you. They can't afford to lose you. If they are that busy they are going to be willing to make some slight changes to accommodate you.
If you are going back in there tomorrow morning, it's the perfect opportunity to explain to them just how much you are willing to put up with, and that you are willing to walk away.

You have a lot more power than you may think if you talk to them in a clear way about what you will put up with.


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