I don't think her failure to know the name of the washed up drunk who represents the fine citizens of Massachussets has any real bearing on her point. Not that I agree with her point but your point really isn't material to the debate not to mention kind of asinine.

That is 100% wrong. Why would the market sell guns to kill? Who preacehs killing? What society holds killing close to their heart? Every culture kills, but no culture THRIVES off killing (except maybe the Yanomami?).

Handguns are NOT DESIGNED to kill. They and every other firearm have other uses, like say, protection. You can shoot someone in the knee and you do NOT have the motive to kill them.

No one can win this arguement. Duck duck is from a gun banning culture. Her beliefs are 10000x different than the average Americans'. As much stuff as we can tell her she will never believe guns are used for good. Let's stop arguing a futile cause, because we all know guns have very positive effects and that America is NOT a "rampant" society. Someone just stated the stats above.

That, unfortunately, will get to 10 to 20 most of the time. Wouding someone with a lethal weapon puts you in a very difficult and awkward legal situation. The prosecutor will simply use the boilerplate cross examination to make the point that if you really were in fear of your life then you could not possibly deliver a restrained response (making the point that you really weren't in fear of you life) and will prosecute you on that basis.

If you have a gun and someone is trying to kill you then dont' stop shooting until they are dead. Vital areas only.

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Nice stretch, fresh. I almost had coffee shoot out my nose. Thanks for the laugh.

What the hell is so funny? I'm sure the gun owners here did not buy them because they aim to kill anyone. They probably bought it for PROTECTION.

Dammit, quit making coffee come out my nose. You are SO funny!:lol2:

Whatever. I'm gonna stick with my original post like 4 posts earlier.

I know! let's ban guns and go to the cutting tools, that way we can prevent violent death by lethal means! Our government will protect us. They know best.

Ok, ok, I know that they killed 800,000 people in 100 days in Rawanda in 1994... but that was a loooonnnggg time ago. Ignore that. At least they didn't have evil guns because who knows how many they could have killed in that 100 days.

You seriously don't know what's so funny? Funny as irony or funny as utter ignorance, works either way.

How did those people die? Were they all "self-defensed" to death? They were "protected" to death? Maybe the handguns were designed to ... intimidate, to frighten potential threats. Were the victims "scared" to death?

Tell you what, I'll give you a pass on this one, we're all upset, you and me both, and I'll just let slide your clearly false statement. A slip of the fingers in the heat of an argument. You come back to this post in a week and revisit your position on the designed intent of handguns, and we'll talk.

Oh god, more stats. I don't know what's worse, all the stats being thrown about or the ignorance.

Guns kill like the penis is the cause of HIV/AIDS. It is what is behind the tool, not the tool itself. Given the right tool, people are going to do what they want to do regardless of the original intent of the purpose of the tool.

I guess in your experience your ignorance trumps someone elses ignorance, right?

NOW we get to the root of it all: gun as penis...penis as power.

This has become the most satirical thread ever. It's so going into my book.

Yea, most women fear it.

Everything about me trumps everything about everyone else. Didn't you know that? Start listening.