The debate is giving some nutters something to fixate on.

This sounds like a psychotic episode.

As the cab inched up Third Avenue and reached 39th Street, Mr. Sharif said in a phone interview, Mr. Enright suddenly began cursing at him and shouting “This is the checkpoint” and “I have to bring you down.” He said he told him he had to bring the king of Saudi Arabia to the checkpoint.

Late in the article it mentions this, curiouser and curiouser...

Mr. Enright is also a volunteer with Intersections International, an initiative of the Collegiate Churches of New York that promotes justice and faith across religions and cultures. The organization, which covered part of Mr. Enright’s travel expenses to Afghanistan, has been a staunch supporter of the Islamic center near ground zero. Mr. Enright volunteered with the group’s veteran-civilian dialogue project.

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A classic deflection to divert attention from one's own intolerance....a common practice of the right.

Much like another recent comment here about the "liberal tit suckers" war on christianity.

Small minds here do think alike.

Reminds me.

In the following photo, there are two large condos right next to each other in the middle of the photo. Two separate owners. The condo on the right, built first, has four rooms on each floor, each getting a separate direction to look out of. The condo on the left, built after, has one room to each floor. Notice how the side facing the first condo has no windows.

http://urban-photos.com/gallery/albu...ee_13_9325.jpg

Of course, they have the right to build there but they should be sensitive to our....

Almost like a "spite-fence"

How the heck are you supposed to peek at the neighbors in the next building without windows? Makes no sense :headshake

I can't make my mind small enough to think or believe alike with Redux. He's so proud of his superstitions and his ignorance of the Right. That pride in his ignorance, popular among that heavily Democratic group the KKK, denotes an inferior sort of mind. This is the kind of conscienceless guy who votes for Democrats.

Don't claim enlightenment around me, Redux. You for one cannot know it. Do you think you have it? -- well, you're not right, you're left.

I think this perspective sums it up very well...whether its Beck and the Tea Party crowd screaming "socialism" and "Obama is a racist" and "destroying the American way of life" or the anti-Muslim bigotry that is raging across the country:
You, sir, (and a few select others here - one who rages against the ""liberal tit suckers" war on christianity) repeatedly demonstrate the tantrum morality.

My suggestion....heed the advice offered:

How to get out of your own Moral Tantrum:

Pause. Breathe. Step back and look at yourself (often this is triggered when someone questions what you are doing). Pay attention to where you are and what is around you (right brain). Be self-reflective: Why am I trying to coerce? What am I afraid of? Is there a better way to persuade? How can I stay in a respectful relationship with this person?

Have a great day. :)

Under the constitution the state/goverment cannot tell anyone if they can build a church, mosque or synagogue,or even a lions club for that matter.

It would set a dangerous precedent. Case closed.

That said, there is something creepy about a mosque being build so close to ground zero, but if I were better educated I would understand I am just being an ignorant bigot.

Behavior in this thread has been poor. It is advised that we try to stay on the topic of the thread without addressing each other.

The constant reference to it as the "ground zero" mosque and the gross misrepresentations of the words and actions of the imam director of the community center in question by the right wing media and the opposition to the facility only spread ignorance and intolerance.

The result is the backlash against Muslim and other mosques across the country. Islamaophobia is not only counter to American values but dangerous at many levels.

Perhaps a visual will help:

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runnin...hk2o1_1280.jpg

Pause. Breathe. Step back and look at yourself (often this is triggered when someone questions what you are doing). Pay attention to where you are and what is around you (right brain). Be self-reflective: Why am I trying to coerce? What am I afraid of? Is there a better way to persuade? How can I stay in a respectful relationship with this person?

I realize you were posting in general, but since you posted to censor after pages of posts, I need to clarify.

I was talking about myself and it was no veiled judgment against another.

I really do find myself having irrational objections about a mosque being built so close to ground zero.I think it is insensitive. That said,I tell myself it is probably because I am an uneducated bigot.

I wonder if I educated myself about what Islam really is I would feel better about it. :rolleyes:

One does not need to education oneself about Islam to understand that many of the more vocal and vitriolic arguments against the building of this community center are based on demagoguing, fear-mongering and gross misrepresentation of the facts.

The "sensitivity" of building at this location (not within sight of Ground Zero) is another question but where do you draw the line?

If the mission of the community center is to encourage constructive engagement between Muslims, Christians and Jews and if the moderate imam in charge has a history of such bridge-building, does that not display sensitivity and a positive voice in the community?

When a vocal opposition (even if is the majority) ignores the facts and instead, act on emotion, we ultimately create separate standards of what is acceptable based on our own biases (against a race or religion) rather than what is right...and that is dangerous....because you (me or anyone of us) could be next group exercising our rights in a manner that might offend the sensibilities of others .

Not censor posts of fact or opinion, censure personal attacks. ;)