No, I completely get that. Everyone in this situation was happy--the employees were paid better than the market rate, and the employer had better-than-average employees. On the other hand, if the shop down the street had started offering the same thing, then some of your father-in-law's good employees may have left. And if all the shops in the state did the same thing, then the market rate for those employees would have simply been raised, and your father-in-law would have been left with average employees. He would find himself having to pay them even more to retain the good employees.

But why don't you just ask him? Ask him if he would want all of his competitors to take extra good care of their employees like he did. Your example is in fact only another piece of evidence that individuals can and should make a difference to those around them, because widespread systemic rules are ineffective and counterproductive.

it's always so easy for those who have not to demand those that have to just 'accept less'

to each according to his need from each according to his ability?

If this was a prevalent practice, spexx, no one would bother going into business for themselves. I've never met anyone who is 'content' with their income. but don't take my word for it....let's poll the audience

'cause he's dead.

Shit, they guy 's dead. That means Spexx "wins" by default. JEERS to Clodfobble.

Jim, thanks for contributing ina constructive manner.
I'm not asking anyone to accept less if they don't have enough. Don't you think there's a point where you will have enough? If you reach that point, will you just keep accumulating wealth? The little I know of you tells me that when you get enough, you'll retire and spend your life playing guitar and following Bob Weir's tour.

No. When you have enough, let others have some of what you could choose to accumulate.

That doesn't make any sense to me. You have a choice of working at a job, and not making enough, or going into business for yourself, and making enough, and you would choose to not make enough?

I have.

did you just thank me for contributing in a constructive manner?

so ....you mean like...if you are 60 yrs old, and have had a very successful business for the last 30 years....you have $100 mil in liquid assets, plus 4 or 5 homes, and your family is provided for for the next 4 or 5 generations even if they all just hang around by the pool? Then you should give your income away? to who? you?

No, why would I do that?

Nobody sane would buy $5 peas, so the grocer can't do that.

What if the grocer sets the price of a can of peas to 30 cents, drastically undercutting the 50-70 cent grocers?

Is this too patronizing?

You get the birth of Wal-Mart.

this kind of thing is what frustrates people about arguing with people like you. you perceive that lookout is name-calling, and yet...cannot be outdone in that respect. you have to say nanny nanny boo boo back. I guess it seems somehow to lack ...integrity....to chide him about insults and then turn around and do the exact same thing. Like 'he started it, mom!'


in the same vein, instead of judging clodfobble and lookout about not giving up what they have cheerfully, you could let someone who needs it more live in your nice house that's in one of the top 10 places in the country to live. and then say ...this is what i do. lead us by example since you have the answers. they seem to come to you so easily, after all.

you speak to people like you're schooling them on how to be. and all the while, we all know you're a dork like the rest of us.

If you feel that that you have enough, you don't have to give it away, just stop accumulating more.

fire everyone, and close your businesses?

you lose

I'd prefer to have a civil debate, but if Lookout insults me, what should I do? Take it like a pussy? Is that what you'd do? No, that's not me.

I have not judged them and I haven't said anything about giving up what they have, cheerfully or not.

When I have enough, I will.

Why thank you. Whale cocks unite!

He'll sell more peas.
Respectfully, you could get to the point.