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infinite monkey 06-01-2012 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman (Post 813548)
Or don't learn about the situation ... your choice. You could go off on a rant (see above)
Whatever. If you actually knew what the situation is, you might feel differently. or not.

Meh. Too much effort. ;)

Explain it to me, what's it all about, Alfie? Not the disjointed stuff like in that other post. What is it about? What is his frustration?

I went on a rant about a little boy going on a rant. Sorry, no go. I don't get to go on rants at work no matter how passionately I feel about a situation, no matter what students the situation affects. They expect all adult crap and stuff.

You posted a video with no information what it's about. I watched a snippet at work and thought 'whoa dude, pill o' chill' and you respond with...well classic, really... I'm not trying to be disrespectful to you, a lot of my posts are tongue in cheek and you know it, but what WAS that response? I got something about a bill and 200 hours. And he's throwing a hissy fit.

So what's his passion about? You must be passionate about it too. So instead of "look it up and learn, then submit a 100 word essay on what it's about" why don't you just tell me? :3eye:

You even said if we don't care we can just watch the reactions of the people around him. So I don't care and I watched the reactions and felt their amusement. Great, infi, but don't comment on how funny it is. You obviously don't understand the importance of this situation. What? What situation? I'm still in the dark.

Am I allowed to poke fun at frothing screamy guy or not?

infinite monkey 06-01-2012 07:38 AM

As to Broadcast News...hahahahah!

Just the other day I texted to my friend: A lot of alliteration for anxious anchors placed in powerful posts.

glatt 06-01-2012 09:03 AM

Broadcast News! A guy I know (father of my daughter's best friend) lived in the apartment that they used as Holly Hunter's apartment in that movie. The studio rented it from him and his roomies and put them up in a hotel while they filmed in their apartment. Holly Hunter apparently even has a scene where she's lying in his bed, so he jokes that Holly Hunter's been in his bed.

He's got some great stories about it, but he said that overall the experience sucked. The studio really took advantage of them and trashed the place. He wished they had held out for a lot more money or just said no.

infinite monkey 06-01-2012 09:16 AM

Wow! I can picture the apartment.

That is just such a great movie. So many good quotes:

Aaron Altman: I think we have the kind of friendship where if I were the devil, you'd be the only one I would tell.

[after Paul fires one of his workers]
Paul Moore: Now, if there's anything I can do for you...
Employee: Well, I certainly hope you'll die soon.

Aaron Altman: I know you care about him. I've never seen you like this about anyone, so please don't take it wrong when I tell you that I believe that Tom, while a very nice guy, is the Devil.
Jane Craig: This isn't friendship.
Aaron Altman: What do you think the Devil is going to look like if he's around? Nobody is going to be taken in if he has a long, red, pointy tail. No. I'm semi-serious here. He will look attractive and he will be nice and helpful and he will get a job where he influences a great God-fearing nation and he will never do an evil thing... he will just bit by little bit lower standards where they are important. Just coax along flash over substance... Just a tiny bit. And he will talk about all of us really being salesmen. And he'll get all the great women.

classicman 06-01-2012 11:48 AM

OK, lemme try it this way ...
One man has been leading the local legislature for 30 YEARS... ONE MAN! He decides how everything is played out.
He decides WHEN bills get put forth. In this particular case it was a 200 page bill they had worked on for over a year
and at the last minute (hour) after they legislators had worked on the bi-partisan bill, House Speaker Michael Madigan
introduced a very different bill with changes made to the proposed bill previously worked on.
Basically Madigan tried to pull a bait & switch, but Bost had had enough.

There is a ton of info on this. I just can't be bothered to write it all out.

This may also explain how effed up what Madigan has been doing for YEARS.
Quote:

"When I left the floor," ... "many Democrats from around the state -
even Chicago Democrats - came in and said, 'We want to say this but we can't.'"
Here - maybe this too will help...


Go to about the minute mark for the interview.

Cyber Wolf 06-01-2012 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 813499)
Governments in third worlds like? Like how they kill each other and riot at their soccer games sometimes? Yeah, no, we want to be a little more civilized than that, don't we?

Ukraine is at least second world and they had a pretty good parliament battle just a couple of years ago. Taiwan too and they've had some humdinger sessions. South Korea is considered first world and had a nice row a few years ago... lots injured and one hospitalized. 'More civilized' just means the clothes that get ruined in a fight are more expensive. :D

Regarding soccer riots and deaths therein, England is about as first world as countries get and that's where that big soccer riot that killed around 100 people happened.

infinite monkey 06-01-2012 12:08 PM

@ classic: I apologize I totally see where he was coming from now. Thank you!
He seems like an OK enough guy in the interview. And it seems he was speaking for others as well and to be honest i wish I had the guts to go off like that at how my cow orkers are being treated, and how this micromanaging and insulting ruling class here needs some serious re-education.

@ C-wolf: I just like to get my digs in about soccer wherever I can.

TheMercenary 06-05-2012 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman (Post 813600)
OK, lemme try it this way ...
One man has been leading the local legislature for 30 YEARS... ONE MAN! He decides how everything is played out.
He decides WHEN bills get put forth. In this particular case it was a 200 page bill they had worked on for over a year
and at the last minute (hour) after they legislators had worked on the bi-partisan bill, House Speaker Michael Madigan
introduced a very different bill with changes made to the proposed bill previously worked on.
Basically Madigan tried to pull a bait & switch, but Bost had had enough.

There is a ton of info on this. I just can't be bothered to write it all out.

This may also explain how effed up what Madigan has been doing for YEARS.

Here - maybe this too will help...


Go to about the minute mark for the interview.

This MoFo just made me LMAO.... what a great representative of the liberal left of todays society.

Ibby 06-05-2012 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 813928)
This MoFo just made me LMAO.... what a great representative of the liberal left of todays society.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Bost
Quote:

Mike Bost (born December 30, 1960) is a Republican member of the Illinois House of Representatives, representing the 115th district where he has served since 1995.
or you know whatever. facts, pshaw, who needs 'em.

DanaC 06-05-2012 07:12 PM

Yeah...from Merc's perspective that still makes him the liberal left though, aye? :p

TheMercenary 06-05-2012 07:35 PM

Well Obama has done such a great job on the unemployment issue, the promise of transparency, the promise to close Gitmo, the promise to do things differently, the promise of transparency, the promise of "Green Jobs", the promise of ignoring race as an issue, saving the auto industry, this fucking cocksucker has failed on every point. Well he did giving US guns to the Mexican Cartel's, I have to give him that. Maybe he thought that they could kill each other off faster? How about the war on Wealth? How is that working out for him.

TheMercenary 06-05-2012 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 813933)
Yeah...from Merc's perspective that still makes him the liberal left though, aye? :p

I actually consider him a latent Marxist and Alinsky worshiper.

TheMercenary 06-05-2012 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ibram (Post 813931)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Bost

or you know whatever. facts, pshaw, who needs 'em.

Party affiliation means nothing these days. It is how you fall down on the issues. He fell right on his sword where he should have landed. To bad it didn't hit his brain....

Stormieweather 06-06-2012 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 813933)
Yeah...from Merc's perspective that still makes him the liberal left though, aye? :p

:biglaugha

infinite monkey 06-06-2012 09:56 AM

What a liberal leftist.

Um, he's a republican.

Party means nothing!

_____________________________________

Why DO we give this guy the time of day?

:lol2:

glatt 12-14-2012 09:21 AM

My US Representative is Jim Moran (D). I can't tell you the number of times over the years that I've shaken his hand while he's standing outside my Metro station or at some local event like a parade or something. The guy is everywhere and has been around forever. When I first moved down here, I liked him. He's on my team, and he seemed jolly and friendly. Then about ten years ago, there were allegations that he was an anti-Semite. I never got the whole story on that, but he claimed it wasn't true and had some photo ops with Jews to prove it, and said it was just a political smear. So then there was a tarnish, and I didn't really like him so much after that. I realized that he hadn't really been doing anything in Congress. A young guy ran against him in the primary, and I voted for the young guy, but Moran is the incumbent and has a lot of name recognition, so he won.

I think maybe there was even another time that someone ran against him in a primary. I'll always vote against Moran in the primary now, but I can't vote for a Republican in the general election, because I disagree with the Republicans. Moran is kinda slimy, but he's MY slimy guy.

This past election, he had his 23 year old son, Patrick Moran, working with him on the campaign, and an O'Keefe operative entrapped the son on hidden video talking to a "potential voter" who was trying to commit voter fraud, and Patrick after many minutes got tricked into advising him ways to do that. My take on that was that the son, Patrick, was a naive idiot who allowed himself to get tripped up by the dirty tricks of the Republicans. Patrick was wrong, he came out and admitted that he was wrong and apologized, and his dad, the Congressman, stood by him and apologized. And took him off the campaign. I basically gave the son and the dad a pass because I thought it reflected more on the Republicans. But it showed they were idiots.

Well this morning, I just learned on Facebook (!) of a story that should be on the front page of the Washington Post, but had been buried where I never saw it. Salon tells us this son Patrick assaulted his girlfriend in front of some witnesses. He grabbed her by the hair and smashed her face into a metal garbage can, breaking her nose and fracturing her skull. He pleaded guilty, but got slapped on the wrist with probation because she now claims her heel broke and she fell into the garbage can. The Congressman's office released a statement that it's a deeply embarrassing private issue, and they referred to the woman's claim that she "fell" and asked that the couple be allowed to move forward in privacy. No mention that he admitted guilt or that there were witnesses, or that he really did assault her. They are pushing the story that she fell.

I'm so sick of Jim Moran. He really needs to step down. His time has come. You can't blame the father for the sins for the son, but you can blame the father for trying to sweep this under the rug. And you can certainly blame the Washington Post for not putting this on the front page. The Post has endorsed Moran numerous times over the years and their bias is really showing on this story.

ZenGum 04-16-2013 07:41 PM

Remember STOCK, the Stop Trading On Congressional Knowledge act, that was supposed to make insider-trading laws apply to the Washington trough-snouted hogs? That was passed with such fanfare in (election year) 2012?

While no-one was looking...

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...s-itself.shtml

... well, it's nice that they can be non-partisan about something. :right:

xoxoxoBruce 04-16-2013 08:27 PM

OK, they only rolled back the disclosure provision for staffers. That protects the corporate shills, scumbag lawyers, and family members on staff, and makes sure the brokers still get the inside info.

I'm not surprised, disgusted, but not surprised.

At least they taught Martha Stewart a lesson.

richlevy 05-11-2013 07:15 PM

Man, the Republicans are really trying to f**k with immigration reform.

From here.

Quote:

As Mother Jones' Adam Serwer first noted, Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah), an outspoken skeptic of the immigration bill, has proposed extending this policy only to "domestic service" occupations. The amendment lists specific positions immigrants can hold, which are limited to "cooks, waiters, butlers, housekeepers, governessess, maids, valets, baby sitters, janitors, laundresses, furnacemen, care-takers, handymen, gardeners, footmen, grooms, and chauffeurs of automobiles for family use."
Footmen???????

This is the party that is trying to win back the Hispanic vote?

ZenGum 05-12-2013 01:01 AM

Grooms????

I think that list is longhand for "chores all the n####rs used to do 'afore they done got all uppity".

Seriously, illegals are a de facto underclass, might as well stop hassling them about it.

richlevy 05-12-2013 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 864772)
Grooms????

I think that list is longhand for "chores all the n####rs used to do 'afore they done got all uppity".

Seriously, illegals are a de facto underclass, might as well stop hassling them about it.

Add to that the fact that it's probably unconstitutional. The 13th Amendment abolished slavery and indentured servitutude. Limiting people to these occupations might fail that test.

Are footmen all the male members of the footfootfoot family?;)

ZenGum 05-12-2013 07:44 AM

Well, they're a step up from Shitmen.

Lamplighter 05-12-2013 08:05 AM

We've been through something like this before...
Judge Alito will be so pleased

From Wiki:
Quote:

Michael Shumway "Mike" Lee (born June 4, 1971) is a lawyer and
the junior United States Senator from Utah. Lee is a member of the Republican Party.

Lee has been a constitutional lawyer in Utah and Washington, D.C,
in addition to serving as a clerk for then-Judge Samuel A. Alito, Jr.

His father, Rex E. Lee, was the founding dean of Brigham Young University's
J. Reuben Clark Law School, and Solicitor General of the United States during the Reagan administration.
<snip>

richlevy 05-12-2013 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richlevy (Post 864796)
indentured servitutude.

servitutude?:smack:

It's not like my instream spellchecker didn't warn me that I'd misspelled servitude.

ZenGum 06-06-2013 09:16 PM

America, you might want to try this.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...647_story.html

Short version, thousands of Bosnians - mostly new mothers - have formed a blockade around their parliament, but rather than trying to throw the leaders out, they are forcing them to stay in until they stop bickering and do their bloody jobs.

The crisis issue is that they haven't been able to register new births since February and still haven't fixed the problem.

The real problem is deeper:

Quote:

Bosnia is one of the world’s most over-governed countries. It consists of two semi-autonomous mini-states, each with a president, government and parliament. Those are linked by a joint parliament, government and a three-member presidency.

Disagreements between the ethnicities have nearly ground many government services to a halt.

sexobon 06-07-2013 03:04 AM

We wanted to lock our representatives into the Capitol building; but, only so we could get someone to fly a plane into it. It's hard to get good terrorists these days.

glatt 06-07-2013 07:22 AM

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It wouldn't work in the US. They have tunnels and a private subway line in and out of the place.

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Griff 06-07-2013 04:42 PM

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hmmm... that looks familiar
* Dear NSA this post does not constitute a threat.


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