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Shawnee123 05-03-2010 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Redux
Two of the most conservative governors, while avoiding the question of the constitutionality of the AZ law, have said it is bad public policy.

Bob McDonell, gov. of Virginia - "I’m concerned about the whole idea of carrying papers and always have to be able to prove your citizenship. That brings up shades of some other regimes that were not particularly helpful to democracy and civil rights."

Rick Perry, gov. of Texas - ""I fully recognize and support a state’s right and obligation to protect its citizens, but I have concerns with portions of the law passed in Arizona and believe it would not be the right direction for Texas."
Good cites, Redux.

xoxoxoBruce 05-03-2010 10:43 AM
I have less respect for politicians opinions, than that of the man on the street. At least the man on the street doesn't have to consider whether it's the politically correct answer.

Spexxvet 05-03-2010 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 653351)
I think there will always be a benefit to entering the US for people from any country in a similar situation to Mexico or just any that is more impoverished than the US.
So the answer is to make the US more impoverished than those countries.


Ahhhh.... now I understand The Bush Doctrine! :p:

Spexxvet 05-03-2010 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 653356)
I have less respect for politicians opinions, than that of the man on the street. At least the man on the street doesn't have to consider whether it's the politically correct answer.
Are you saying that the country should set policy according to polls, then?

Redux 05-03-2010 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 653356)
I have less respect for politicians opinions, than that of the man on the street. At least the man on the street doesn't have to consider whether it's the politically correct answer.
Given that many men (and women) on the street cant even name their own Congressperson and Senators and many get their "news" from info-tainment sources, just how informed is the average man on the street?

I wonder how many could pass the citizenship test required of immigrants?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13442226/

Shawnee123 05-03-2010 10:57 AM
Seriously! Most just barf back what they heard Joe at the office say.

Shawnee123 05-03-2010 11:00 AM
(I missed the original states) :blush:

classicman 05-03-2010 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 653362)
So the answer is to make the US more impoverished than those countries.

Ahhhh.... now I understand The Bush Doctrine! :p:
Uh. no.

Spexxvet 05-03-2010 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 653362)
So the answer is to make the US more impoverished than those countries.
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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 653371)
Uh. no.
Well, it CAN'T be to un-impoverish (or would that be "to poverish"?)other countries, can it?

Shawnee123 05-03-2010 11:50 AM
No, 'cause then they'll get all high and mighty and think they're just as good as us.

Then, also, they'll become a rich country and build a bunch of nuclear weapons, then they'll blast down those cheap-ass fences we built, and take over the world!

We can't have that!

;)

classicman 05-03-2010 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 653375)
Well, it CAN'T be to un-impoverish (or would that be "to poverish"?)other countries, can it?
Are you really that ignorant? Really?

Spexxvet 05-03-2010 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 653383)
Are you really that ignorant? Really?
The old Classhole rears its ugly head.

- As Bruce said, you can't keep them out.

- You rejected the idea of impoverishing the US.

- You reject the idea of helping other countries.

What's the answer?

classicman 05-03-2010 12:57 PM
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As Bruce said, you can't keep them out.
Agreed to a degree.
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You rejected the idea of impoverishing the US.
Is that your plan? :eyebrow:
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You reject the idea of helping other countries.
When?


What's your answer?

Shawnee123 05-03-2010 12:58 PM
:facepalm:

Shawnee123 05-03-2010 01:04 PM
It's like the Vinnie Barbarino approach to debating. :lol:


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