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Aliantha 09-06-2012 12:06 AM

Just a few weeks now Razz. If she's still breech when I go into labour they'll do a C section. We'll just have to wait and see for now though.

BigV 09-06-2012 07:54 PM

paper towels
toilet paper
case of grape soda
case of lemon lime soda
two gallons whole milk
box of green burritos
bottle of creamer
bottle of mayonnaise
two loaves of wheat bread
tax

guess how much. highlight to answer.

$76.34

Pico and ME 09-06-2012 11:18 PM

Oh Lord! Where do you shop????

I guessed $50 and I was rounding up. It might have helped to be a little more specific on the quantities, however. ;)

monster 09-06-2012 11:48 PM

about $35 where I live/shop assuming the kitchen and bog roll were bought in bulk.

DanaC 09-07-2012 04:41 AM

Well, Carrot survived his ordeal at the vets. He spent the day there pretty much. Dropped him in at a little after 8:30, walked away feeling a total traitor (left him his raggedy-cow toy to chew whilst he was waiting for the anaesthetic). Picked him up around 4pm.

The news is not as bad as I had feared and not as good as I had hoped.

He has a mild form of hip dysplasia. The joints aren't very badly malformed, nowhere near as bad as it can get, but nor are they quite right. The balls of the joints are slightly flattened at the head, and the sockets of the joints quite shallow.

I've seen what bad hip dysplasia can do and it's really horrible. I'm profoundly relieved that's not what he has to face. In some dogs the ball of the joint is barely bigger than the shaft, sometimes completely flat, like a little hammerhead. The socket can form so flat that there is no surround to the ball at all. And in the worst cases the two are actually at a slight distance from each other and not connecting at all as a joint, with muscle alone holding the two pieces together. At it's worst it is crippling.

The good news is that catching it at this age offers an opportunity to intervene whilst he is still growing and really strengthen the muscles around the joints. He'll be going for visits to the hydrotherapy pool to boost them. It won't make a massive difference to the next few years, but will hopefully payoff when he's a little older. What is done now has major implications for his quality of life past the age of 5 or 6.

He's fine. But it's worrying me a little. With shallow hipjoints he's at possible risk of dislocation if the joints are stressed. A fall or a bad landing could be a real problem. I have decided not to do agility classes with him (as I had considered doing once he hits a 1 year old), and will have to be a little cautious where I let him run free. Pilau was a little mountain goat and cuold always be relied upon to find a way up and over anything. Carrot has the same inclination, but when I think of some of the tumbles Pil took, I really don't like that thought for Carrot and his shallow hip joints.

Was so sad looking at his xrays. Flat on his back with his legs downwards, looked like a little human :p

Anyways. Yeah. A little upset at the thought of him having anything bad to contend with really.

Trilby 09-07-2012 07:48 AM

for carrot - :apaw: of love

for carrot's human: :flower: of love and caring

monster 09-07-2012 07:52 AM

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infinite monkey 09-07-2012 07:52 AM

Poor carrot. Huggles.

Trilby 09-07-2012 07:53 AM

BigV-- groceries are my number one expense. I have been trying to eat beans, rice and corn/salsa mixture and skip meat but I MISS MEAT! Protein fills you UP and the beans/rice thing only makes me swell up and then feel hungry in half an hour. It's ridiculous how much money one person can spend at the grocery. Add up stuff like TP, cleanser, shampoo, and animal stuff and you're at 100.00 easily. It's teh sucketh. and it's only going to get worse with the drought. the farmers here say Isaac HURT them rather than helped them. I'm getting a new storm door and I am prepared to go to food banks when I have to pay for it. (Old Storm door is original wood from 1957 and has dry rot and been thru two major storms and no longer shuts. Must have a new one - not a luxury deal at all. The storms coming thru Ohio are getting really nasty and I have to have a new one. During last storm, the plastic in the "glass" section of the door cracked in four places).

PM me for my addy to google my house and see storm door from '57!

DanaC 09-07-2012 07:55 AM

Thanks guys. Have passed on Cellar huggles to Carrot :)

monster 09-07-2012 08:00 AM

But really, how can you spend that much on that BigV? Did you order in from Harrods? that's insane. Or are green burritos like $40, 'cause that's the only thing I had to guess on.

paper Towel $1.50
Bogroll $2
Soda $3 * 2 = $6
milk: $5 ($3.50 if you have an ALDI)
creamer ?$3
Mayo $3
Bread $5

that's like $25 plus your burritos. WTF?

glatt 09-07-2012 08:10 AM

Yeah, I was coming up with $50. Prices are higher here and probably in Seattle too. Depends on how big the packages of the paper towels and TP were, and also what green burritos are.

infinite monkey 09-07-2012 08:20 AM

Green burritos are made entirely from money! That's why they cost so much.

Trilby 09-07-2012 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 829019)
Green burritos are made entirely from money! That's why they cost so much.

yeah, that's why I never buy them.

IF you buy the large quality TP it's around 14.00 here (the triple size Charmin Ultra strong stuff that lasts one person a month) IF you buy 12 rolls of paper towels, (which I never do) it's around the same. so that's nearly 30 dollars right there. It's better to buy in bulk on that stuff if you can as it's cheaper in the long run but I can't really afford to do that.

and as far as going to the food banks goes....well, it prolly won't get THAT bad. I'll just do soup and ramen for longer than I want!

eta: creamer here is around 3.99 and mayo is nearly five bux if you buy Hellman's and four if you buy store brand

monster 09-07-2012 10:14 AM

so bulk paper towel adds 7 and bulk tp adds 13. so now $45. Those are definitely still greenback burritos

monster 09-07-2012 10:17 AM

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infinite monkey 09-07-2012 10:21 AM

Ew.

monster 09-07-2012 10:27 AM

yeah, clod helped with the sauce

BigV 09-07-2012 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 828976)
about $35 where I live/shop assuming the kitchen and bog roll were bought in bulk.

yes, paper products bought in bulk from Cash & Carry. This is the closest to a wholesale store I can get to. No fancy store anything, no carts only bulk carrying flats, cement floors, walk-in coolers and freezers, plenty of restaurant supplies, etc.

paper towels from Tork, 12 rolls, 210 2-ply sheets per roll $26.63
toilet paper , 20 rolls, $12.49

everything else was pretty cheap.

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infinite monkey 09-07-2012 01:58 PM

2-ply paper towels? What's that I don't even...

You can get 12 rolls of Bounty Select a Size (16 rolls if you use the smallest you can tear off) for like 15-16 bucks.

I love select a size, too.

monster 09-07-2012 03:48 PM

See, these wholesale places are generally a rip-off and not the way to shop sensibly. Just because they sell bulk and look cheap doesn't mean they are. We found once we didn't need nappies any more they weren't saving us anything. And over $2 for a roll of kitchen paper is ridiculous (and probably environmentally unfriendly). And that TP is a ridiculous price too -are you wiping your arse on sheet gold?

A 12-pack of soda should be in the $3 range and I I thought homos were people too -they shouldn't be selling them at the cash-and-carry

infinite monkey 09-07-2012 03:50 PM

2 gallons of homos, no less.

I've also never seen a 2 gallon jug of milk. Seattle must be like, another country!

monster 09-07-2012 03:53 PM

Oh wait, maybe the paper towl is some sort of bondage thing, in which case I guess it would need to be stronger...... and maybe more absorbent

infinite monkey 09-07-2012 03:55 PM

I saw on a package on google that they're 'advanced.'

Well hey, if a paper towel goes to college to try to better themselves, I have no problem with them being paid more.

monster 09-07-2012 04:04 PM

I need brain bleach :eek:

BigV 09-07-2012 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 829131)
2-ply paper towels? What's that I don't even...

You can get 12 rolls of Bounty Select a Size (16 rolls if you use the smallest you can tear off) for like 15-16 bucks.

I love select a size, too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by monster (Post 829166)
See, these wholesale places are generally a rip-off and not the way to shop sensibly. Just because they sell bulk and look cheap doesn't mean they are. We found once we didn't need nappies any more they weren't saving us anything. And over $2 for a roll of kitchen paper is ridiculous (and probably environmentally unfriendly). And that TP is a ridiculous price too -are you wiping your arse on sheet gold?

A 12-pack of soda should be in the $3 range and I I thought homos were people too -they shouldn't be selling them at the cash-and-carry

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 829167)
2 gallons of homos, no less.

I've also never seen a 2 gallon jug of milk. Seattle must be like, another country!



(from Amazon) Bounty Select A Size Paper Towels, 12 Mega Rolls
by Bounty
3.0 out of 5 stars See all reviews (7 customer reviews) | Like (0)
List Price: $39.95
Price: $21.99 ($1.83 / Item)
You Save: $17.96 (45%)

Sheets per roll: 154
Quantity: 12 rolls
Ply: 2
Color: White
Sheet size: 11" x 6"
Bounty's thick quilts offer super absorbency
One sheet keeps working on your mini-messes
12 super rolls = 22 Select-a-Size regular rolls
Individually wrapped rolls
-------

some arithmetic
-----------------

number of sheets * size of sheets * number of rolls = how much paper towels you're getting
(154 * 11 * 6 * 12) / price = cost per area of towel.

121968 sq inches of paper towel / 21.99 = 5546.55 square inches of towel per dollar


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(210 * 11 * 9 * 12) = 249480

249480 / 26.63 = 9368.38 square inches of paper towel per dollar.

The Bounty is almost twice as expensive.

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The soda is for a *case* not a twelve pack, so the price is in line with your expectation. Just generic soda, house brand. Probably comes from the same well as the name brand.
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re tp
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Charmin Ultra Soft, Double Rolls, 4 Count Packs [Amazon Frustration-Free Packaging]
by Charmin
3.9 out of 5 stars See all reviews (101 customer reviews) |
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List Price: $46.51
Price: $31.54 ($0.79 / count) & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping. Details
You Save: $14.97 (32%)
Special Offers Available

In Stock.
Ships from and sold by Amazon.com in certified Frustration-Free Packaging. Gift-wrap available.
Size: 10-Count (Pack of 4)

also from amazon, this is a 40-roll-pack, so twice the number of rolls.

charmin 31.54/2= $15.77 per 20 rolls
cash carry 12.49 per 20 rolls.

I didn't bother to compare number of sheets per roll.

monster 09-07-2012 05:12 PM

protesting too much. definitely paper-towel-porn

Razzmatazz13 09-07-2012 05:16 PM

As an extreme couponer, I approve of V's math. Bulk shopping is all about unit pricing... sometimes it's better, sometimes it's not.

Grocery shopping is just so crazy expensive... can't wait until fall starts rolling around so I can get better coupon deals again to stock up. Sigh.

monster 09-07-2012 05:32 PM

Plus he'll always be ready if clodfobble goes near a liquor store......


I'm just funnin' I buy in bulk too. But it's not really cricket to pose it as a regular shopping list and not mention that some items are luxury brands bought in bulk when asking people to estimate the cost.

It's like me saying "pasta" on the day I bought 50lb of the stuff because the sale was so good (I think I posted the recipt somewhere)

infinite monkey 09-07-2012 05:48 PM

I was kidding too. For me, buying in bulk is an extra can of cream of chicken soup or a double pack of paper towels. Living alone and all. Plus I'm too lazy to plan far ahead. ;)

BigV 09-07-2012 05:50 PM

are you saying there's some luxury brands there? the milk is Darigold, kind of name brand, not "store brand". and the mayo is Best Foods, not generic... Nothing there is close to a luxury brand.

BigV 09-07-2012 05:53 PM

I didn't get any this trip, but I usually buy my Hershey's Chocolate Syrup there. Chocolate milk is practically on tap here. I buy the chocolate in a ten tin. A six pound can. And I probably have three or four empties in the basement at any given time. SonofV likes to joke with his friends after school by offering to give them some hand soap in their milk. wtf? It's because I transfer the chocolate syrup from the big can to various bottles small enough to fit in the refrigerator. The biggest one used to have hand soap in it.

monster 09-07-2012 05:58 PM

I still maintain that most wholesale places are generally more expensive -but that's probably because I don't buy big name brands in the main (except for nappies and a few other things). Their own brands are usually pricey, but they are cheaper for big-name-brands. Have yet to visit the Costco that opened here this summer.

Razzmatazz13 09-07-2012 08:40 PM

I usually go to Sam's Club once a month or so to stock up on things... but I also get bulk items whenever I can find a good couponing deal on them. It's a lot of math though... bleh

zippyt 09-07-2012 08:43 PM

Ahh yes Sams club , how Much can you afford to save ??

DucksNuts 09-08-2012 05:13 AM

Compared to Aussie pricess


paper Towel $1.50 .... Home Brand $2
Bogroll $2.... 6 Rolls of semi decent (your-finger-wont-go-through-at-the-wrong-time) $4
Soda $3 * 2 = $6.... 12 cans for around $6 Home Brand
milk: $5 ($3.50 if you have an ALDI) $2.89 for 3 Litres
creamer ?$3 ??
Mayo $3 Small squeeze bottle Home Brand $4
Bread $5 $1 per Loaf for crap, I pay $3 per loaf.

Razzmatazz13 09-08-2012 10:37 AM

I feel like this could be a whole thread!!
The cheapest bread in my area is $1.29 / loaf
I've been splurging to buy sunbeam "queen sized" since we go through it so fast, that's $2.99 here
Milk is all the way up to $4.59/gal unless I go to the commissary, but most of you don't have access to those so I'm posting regular grocery store prices. (Mostly Food Lion, if you're wondering)

Pico and ME 09-08-2012 02:34 PM

I have made a list of the items I normally buy at Sam's Club (I would much prefer Costco, but it is an hours drive from me) with the cost per unit or ounce or whatever, so that I can check whether the sales (with coupons or promotions) at the grocery stores I also shop are better or not.

Razzmatazz13 09-08-2012 02:48 PM

I'm in the process of cross-referencing all my local grocery stores and pricing. Sam's club is about an hour's drive from here and the nearest costco is about 3 hours (so I've been told)...

Since I'm currently jobless I've turned my "job" into saving as much of the husband's paycheck as possible.

Pico and ME 09-08-2012 03:01 PM

Do you live near an Aldis? Typically their prices cant be beat and all lot of the stuff they sell isnt bad at all.

Razzmatazz13 09-08-2012 03:22 PM

No Aldi's near me (though I think there's one near my hometown) I've got Food Lion, Piggly Wiggly, Super Walmart, and Harris Teeter as options here. (As well as the commissary on base)

monster 09-08-2012 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV (Post 829177)
(from Amazon) Bounty Select A Size Paper Towels, 12 Mega Rolls
by Bounty
3.0 out of 5 stars See all reviews (7 customer reviews) | Like (0)
List Price: $39.95
Price: $21.99 ($1.83 / Item)
You Save: $17.96 (45%)

Sheets per roll: 154
Quantity: 12 rolls
Ply: 2
Color: White
Sheet size: 11" x 6"
Bounty's thick quilts offer super absorbency
One sheet keeps working on your mini-messes
12 super rolls = 22 Select-a-Size regular rolls
Individually wrapped rolls
-------

some arithmetic
-----------------

number of sheets * size of sheets * number of rolls = how much paper towels you're getting
(154 * 11 * 6 * 12) / price = cost per area of towel.

121968 sq inches of paper towel / 21.99 = 5546.55 square inches of towel per dollar


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(210 * 11 * 9 * 12) = 249480

249480 / 26.63 = 9368.38 square inches of paper towel per dollar.

The Bounty is almost twice as expensive.


OK, so just for interest this is what we are currently using:

http://www.meijer.com/s/meijer-essen...lls/_/R-192189

I make that over 10K sq inch per dollar, plus I probably paid one or two dollars less than that because I always buy on sale. And I didn't have to shell out so much $ in one go to get that price. We tend to alternate between this and Aldi brand -which is a little more expensive but does the small sheet size hich means we use less, plus Aldi and Meijer are in different parts of town, so i shop where i am. In desperation I'll buy Walmart's cheapo stuff, but the quality is sub standard.

Pico and ME 09-08-2012 05:13 PM

I cost out paper goods by use - which is by the sheet. I can get Pom paper towels for .00884 cents per sheet and Pom toilet paper for .00109 cents per sheet at Sam's Club. I generally like the quality better than store or generic brands and I really like having the larger quanities...it doesn't run out as quickly

monster 09-08-2012 05:29 PM

Don't forget to ad in the cost of membership (and gas)

Razzmatazz13 09-08-2012 05:46 PM

$40/year (Sam's Club) is not a lot for membership though, if I go 1-2 times a month ...say 18 times a year? It's $2.22 per visit, and with my gas-friendly Toyota Yaris, I hardly go through any gas to get there. I think it's worth it for us. :)

monster 09-08-2012 06:04 PM

Oh yes, it certainly is for many, it's just a cost to include. How much do you spend each time you go? People here used to travel 30 minutes to go to Costco, they'd go maybe 4 times a year ($10/visit) and buy stuff that's only a little cheaper than locally. Now we have one here, I *may* join, I'mm'a take a guest-pass test run first. We've had a Sam's Club forever, but we let our membership go after Thor was potty trained. We probably broke even on the membership/savings, but it was so stressful because the staff were crap it wasn't worth it.

Pico and ME 09-08-2012 06:10 PM

Last year I opened up their Discover/Members Card which gives me cash back. I use it for everything - gas, groceries, etc.- and pay it off every month. I earned the $40 fee for this year and I have already earned it for the next year. So anymore that doesnt play into it, but even when it did, I still came out ahead. I buy my chicken and hamburger in bulk and bag it up in smaller amounts to freeze. The price almost always beats out the grocery stores. I buy kitty litter, powder laundry detergent, and other cleaners in bulk too. I stay with their brand or, if they have it, ones that cost less.

And, my Sams isnt very far from me, but I tend to only go once a month to stock up. My bill normally stays under $100. Also, it is close to Aldis, so often I go to both in one trip. Aldis actually sells feta chesse and hummus now, and their produce is usually the best priced.

monster 09-08-2012 06:14 PM

ooh Cat litter. I forgot that was a good deal.... (didn't have cats when we gave our membership up)

DanaC 09-09-2012 05:29 AM

Wtf....when did the Upsetting you thread turn into the shopping channel?

Gods damn people I come here for misery and distress...


:p

ZenGum 09-09-2012 06:33 AM

I thought you hated shopping as much as I do.

DanaC 09-09-2012 06:44 AM

Excellent point, Zen.

monster 09-09-2012 10:47 AM

Now you know why.

OK stupid fucking cats can forget about cheap litter. Whats upsetting me is the little shite howled outside my door about every 15 minutes from 6am this morning, then when I finally got up to throw him out, I pulled something in my back. Have been lying in bed icing it for two hours, can only just move, the bastard shite is still outside

glatt 09-09-2012 04:41 PM

My sister in law, who has been fighting pancreatic cancer for the last several years, died in her sleep last night. At home. Kind of caught me by surprise, because she'd been so close so many times before, and they had just released her from the hospital a week ago, and things were looking like they were slightly improving over how she had been for the last month.

Fuckin' cancer. :mad:

Clodfobble 09-09-2012 04:54 PM

Damn. Sorry to hear that glatt.

monster 09-09-2012 05:12 PM

sorry, glatt :(

Griff 09-09-2012 05:16 PM

Damn it. Sorry glatt.

DucksNuts 09-09-2012 05:50 PM

Sorry for your loss glatt.

Aliantha 09-09-2012 06:10 PM

So sorry glatt. :( xxx

xoxoxoBruce 09-10-2012 01:05 AM

Yeah, buttfuck cancer in the mouth.:mad:

glatt 09-10-2012 07:57 AM

Thanks everyone. :)

Now I need to make up my mind about whether I'm going to her memorial service or not. She's actually my ex sister in law. She and my brother got divorced about 10 years ago. But it was a pretty good divorce, and I've seen her maybe 3 times since the divorce.

I liked her a lot. She was really cool. But she hasn't been a significant part of my life in about a decade. But her kids have (17 yo and 19 yo.) They are my niece and nephew and are family.

So on the "attend the service" side of the equation is that I'd like to be there for the service, and the niece and nephew would probably appreciate seeing me there

On the "don't attend the service" side of the equation is that I already have plans to go with my son on a scout camping trip this weekend, the service is on the other side of the country and it will take about 25 hours of travel time round trip to get there and back since I can't afford a last minute direct flight. There will be a ton of other people there, so my absence won't be glaring. Also, I recently noted that a moth ate my only suit, so I'd need to shop for at least a jacket or something. With airfare, hotel, and a new suit, the trip will put me back about $1k, which would be painful.

So really that's what's bugging me about all this. Do I go? I want to be there, but it's a huge pain.

There are only 3-4 more planned camping trips with my son before he leaves scouts, so it's not like there are an endless supply of camping trips. And I really enjoy camping with him and those other dads and their kids.

I think I've decided I'm not going, but I'm really torn about that decision.


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