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jimhelm 09-28-2012 04:02 PM

I'm scared. call a pro.

BigV 09-28-2012 04:16 PM

one vote pro.

glatt 09-28-2012 06:10 PM

How hard can it be? Of course, if you make a mistake, the house will blow up. I know the urge to do it yourself, but that's not something I would do.

ZenGum 09-28-2012 06:10 PM

Yeah, just this once, hiring a pro for a few hundred bucks might be a good idea.

Like with a car - I'll fool with the body work and minor fittings, and on older cars even have a go at the engine, but I always got a pro to fix the brakes. Screw them up and I could die.

glatt 09-28-2012 06:15 PM

Hah! Brakes are super easy. I'll do brakes. But I'm afraid of gas pipes. I have a hard enough time with water pipes. Gas is under less pressure, but for God's sake man, it's gas!

xoxoxoBruce 09-29-2012 02:50 PM

It's not very difficult, iron pipe up through the floor, a gas cock(valve), then standard flex gas stove supply so you can hook it up then move the stove in place, and a drop for water trap at the stove or below the floor.

The is very low pressure so you can check for leaks with soup bubbles or a match. I'd recommend the soap. ;)

Now, here's where it can get tricky. You've got three gas eaters, furnace, stove and dryer. Each one has a BTU rating, which requires a certain amount of gas.
The pipe from the stove to the dryer has to supply enough gas so the dryer doesn't run short and flame out.
The pipe from the furnace to the stove has to carry enough to supply the stove AND the dryer.
The pipe into the furnace has to supply the furnace AND the stove AND the dryer.
That's with all three running balls out,(burners & oven on the stove) plus a little to spare.

Since you can't do much with the pressure, it's pretty much down to volume(pipe size). There's a very good chance the guy who installed the piping took that into account, as he did leave a stub for a stove. So unless you bought an outrageous gas hog stove that uses way more than normal, you're probably good.

I'm working on the assumption that when you say, " I called someone to extend the gas service...", it was a pro and not your buddy's niece's boyfriend. Also that the gas company inspected the work, which most require... if they know.

I don't want to freak you out about doing the install, just make you aware of all the players. This may have been clear as mud, but it covers the ground.

DanaC 09-29-2012 04:00 PM

Recently in the UK a house blew up and took half the street with it, killing a little boy that was inside. The guy who fitted the gas boiler is on a manslaughter charge.

Don't mess with gas stuff. Get a professional.

BigV 09-29-2012 05:49 PM

Thanks all, sincerely. The decision has been made in favor of DIY. This is likely to surprise no one, except perhaps the other people on my half of the block. Then again, they got an eyefull of me every day for a few weeks when I put the roof on awhile back. I intend to keep the roof on through this project.

A new DIY thread with a construction photojournal to come. Unless you hear a boom followed by sirens.

At the moment, I have the pipes measured, cut, and threaded. The gas to the house has been turned off at the meter. I've just taken a break for lunch (prepared by Twil, yum!) and now I return to work.

I'll check in as I can. I expect the project to be done by dinner time. There's no hot water until I'm done. See you all soon.

footfootfoot 09-29-2012 07:04 PM

I usually see Ts close to the tank and individual copper lines to the various appliances. Never seen appliances in sequence

xoxoxoBruce 09-30-2012 12:42 AM

That's for propane, natural gas is often sequenced if it's an efficient layout.

footfootfoot 09-30-2012 08:55 AM

Right. It's been decades since I lived anywhere with natural gas. "...turned off at the meter..." should have been a clue.

ZenGum 09-30-2012 06:38 PM

Heck, move to somewhere with Coal Seam Gas and draw it straight out of your tap water. ;)

Lamplighter 10-01-2012 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BigV (Post 832283)
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At the moment, I have the pipes measured, cut, and threaded. The gas to the house has been turned off at the meter. I've just taken a break for lunch (prepared by Twil, yum!) and now I return to work.

I'll check in as I can. I expect the project to be done by dinner time. There's no hot water until I'm done. See you all soon.

I hope V has researched the different kinds of "pipes".
e.g., Steel vs black iron, especially the part about leaks at the connections, etc.

toranokaze 10-03-2012 12:31 AM

Is Scotland a real country?

infinite monkey 10-03-2012 07:24 AM

I suppose. I mean, we let Canada be a country.

Kidding. I kid.


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