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:)

TGRR,
Wasn't kidding, of course.

Good grief. Arizona, right next to California, the biggest produce state in the country. We still have to ship food, I'm just saying, why do we have to ship it so far? We should try to buy locally as much as possible. SOME produce can certainly be grown in Arizona, can't it? Why yes, it can! http://www.arizonalocalfood.com/

hmmm, bush admitted to using cocaine, so I have to wonder if you ever said he did crack? Did you use it here because Obama happens to be black?

That was completely uncalled for :Redcard:

Why? I thought it was totally appropriate.

No, a black card would have been appropriate.


:bolt:

thanks Zen.

yes. absolutely 100 times yes. me and george bush hate black people.:right:


You've now crossed the line from being an irritatingly naive idealist to being a fucking moron. i'll assume you have nothing of value to say from this point on.

What are you talking about Classicman?

I am asking what you define as "it" in your quote, "Whew. Yup - everyone should have their own manufacturing facility and a garden on their roof. That'd do it?"

Or at least to explain your completely idiotic strawman. You do seem to love those.

I was positive... positive it will never be more than a supplement to the supply of fresh, in season, veggies.
I know more than a little about both farming and agricultural history.

Little things like how much land it takes to produce each type of veggie, grain, fruit, dairy, etc, for a city of say a million or three, precludes this plan from possibly being more than a supplement to the supply.

Add the economics, peoples buying/eating habits, questions of property/produce ownership, weather/location, and I am positive. ;)

Why? Because I called you out on something you said?

Crack is used more by black people, cocaine is used more by white people. That is a fact. Crack has much stiffer penalties, probably because it is a "black" drug, which is unfair, so more black people end up in prison, and this country has a long history of having stricter penalties for drugs that are used by minorities. Obama is black; Bush is white. Both admitted using cocaine. You said Obama used crack, not cocaine, so I wanted to know if you ever said Bush used crack as well. If you didn't, the statement you made is racist. If you did, it wasn't. Plain and simple.

And I am not a moron, thank you very much. I am not naive either. You seem to be the one who is naive, probably because the industry you work in is under attack and under a very large microscope. I suppose it is natural that you would want to defend it. But sinking to personal attacks by calling me a moron is low.

I never thought it would solve anything or replace the way food is currently produced. I just think it will help, in more ways than one, as I mentioned. ;)

You call me idiotic and you still want me to explain a post that had NOTHING to do with you. ok, I'll bite, but just cuz I like you. Another poster implied something that I replied to. It had nothing to do with you. In short, NOYB.

I was the one who brought up garden roofs and how urban agriculture can make an impact in food production. How can you direct it at Sugarpop and not me when we were talking about the same thing?