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piercehawkeye45 01-07-2007 10:03 PM

Advances in science and technology will help tremendously us in the next couple decades. It is extremely short sited not to invest in these and I'm pretty sure only Bush and his cronies have successfully done that.

Urbane Guerrilla 01-08-2007 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla (Post 303251)
Expect the Dems to behave in one of two ways, and these only: stupid, or treasonous.

And here they come, as I expected. :thepain2: :eyebrow: :headshake :censored: :crazy: :cuss:

Ibby 01-08-2007 05:07 AM

If you hadnt done it from your first post, I'd say you've just lost every bit of respect I have for you.

I still say youre somebody's puppet... at the very least, youve got somebody's hand up your ass.

Griff 01-08-2007 06:10 AM

Wow. You really did link to Ann Coulter. I think you can do better.

yesman065 01-08-2007 08:26 AM

Thats a great read UG - perhaps something can be taken from a little history revisited. Then again these things are like statistics and will be twisted by both sides to make the other look bad. How disfunctional a system we have. Let me make myself look good by making you look bad.

Happy Monkey 01-08-2007 09:52 AM

Coulter has a point- If we were still in Vietnam, we wouldn't have lost yet.

rkzenrage 01-08-2007 12:42 PM

True, we would still be losing.

Urbane Guerrilla 01-09-2007 01:47 AM

Remember the boat people weren't trying to get into Vietnam, but out of it. Communism is insupportable among the people of decency.

And there are no refugees fleeing the United States. About the only U.S.-fleeing individual crank fleeing away that I can even bring to mind was R. Crumb. (He's been voluble about his reasons -- but they're all unimportant. Were they important, he'd have had some company, I suppose.)

Urbane Guerrilla 01-09-2007 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 305253)
Wow. You really did link to Ann Coulter. I think you can do better.

You might have gone so far as to suggest someone. I'm currently reading Whittaker Chambers -- who was vivid, though now pretty dated. Instructive, though. Then there's William F. Buckley, who is damned near untouchable, and the late Erik von Kuhnelt-Leddihn. Sean Hannity is not yet a powerful social philosopher, but he is improving -- his second book is an improvement over his first, deeper thought and better written.

Ibby 01-09-2007 02:22 AM

Plenty of people fled America in the sixties and seventies. Oh wait, they dont count, they were just liberal hippy idiots, right?

Urbane Guerrilla 01-09-2007 03:17 AM

Idiots, yes; dupes, yes. I disregard them. I think anybody with a brain would.

Now you get to figure out why I'd think they're not to be respected. It's within your powers; I've seen the stuff you're putting on the Philosophy forum and I like it.

Ibby 01-09-2007 07:05 AM

Of course I know why you dont think theyre to be respected; youre a paleolithic, neomccarthyist, pinko-hating nutjob. (and yes, I could go on)

Now you get to figure out why I'd think you're not to be respected.

(hint: it's right there^)

Griff 01-09-2007 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla (Post 305565)
You might have gone so far as to suggest someone.

Rothbard

Undertoad 01-09-2007 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla (Post 305565)
Sean Hannity is not yet a powerful social philosopher, but he is improving -- his second book is an improvement over his first, deeper thought and better written.

Jamie Foxx took a Hollywood film role as a singer. Now suddenly for some reason he thinks he's a serious musician.

Hannity started putting his name on books. You follow the analogy.

tw 01-09-2007 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla (Post 305562)
Remember the boat people weren't trying to get into Vietnam, but out of it. Communism is insupportable among the people of decency.

And those boat people continued coming for 30 years? Yes, according to UG propaganda. No if UG uses a neocon political agenda to rationalize.

Remember some of his earliest posts. UG completely understood why Vietnam occurred and was lost - but did not even know facts from the Pentagon Papers. Maybe Ann Coulter tells him how to think? Goebbels with blond hair. Brown shirts somehow just knew more. 'Big dic' rationalizing is alive and well.


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