Ummm, no. Actually it was from the NPR report I heard.

http://www.npr.org/2011/10/14/141343...demonstrations
Really? How does that work?

Because I made some good choices, worked my ass, made some huge sacrifices, and was lucky. Oh, and I did not want to live in a mobile home ever again, as a kid. Again, really irrelevant.

Again, no. I was laughing at people who think they should be relieved of their college debt because they can't find a job. So if I go out and buy a Bentley and now I can't afford it should I be relieved of that debt because now I make less money than I did before when I entered into a contract to buy it?

Why the hate and venom?

OK, I'm not going to bother listening to that, I trust you that it's in there somewhere. I read your quote and followed you original link to the article where there was no mention of what was studied.

I know you work hard for what you have, and I don't begrudge you that. What bugs me about your attitude is that these people only want the same chances that you (and I) got. You routinely refer to all of them as fools, but they have legitimate gripes.

I have more to say, but can't really devote time to it right now.

I don't know for certain what the ratio of legitimate gripes is to supposed gripes in this whole protest thing, but it's probably fair to say there's a reasonable number of both.

People who don't want to pay their debts annoy all of us, but there are some pretty serious social issues going on in the US atm, and I think a lot of people have a pretty good reason for protesting about where money is spent etc.

Surely no one can disagree with that?

What is the Y axis?

I think NPR posts the morning edition links later in the day or the next day.

But not everyone will get to be a lawyer or do what I do... Some people are going to flip burgers and be taxi drivers or whatever. That is life. We are just in hard times right now and lots of hard working people are out of work. Wall St. didn't break it, politicians did. They need to be down in front of the the White House and on the Lawn between the Memorials in Washington, D.C.

Well I can't say that we all don't have legitimate gripes. I think they are fools because their actions are counter intuitive to getting the process changed, IMHO. The only way this BS is going to turn around is for the politicians to get off their asses and come together and fix it. But what they are doing is protesting the obvious, costing tax payers MORE money, and when they start to block roads and bridges they are asking for a confrontation, which I believe many of them want to do. I have absolutely nothing against their Right to protest. It is similar to the WTO protests, protest if you want, but go about it the right way. And when you start to tell me that my tax money has to go to paying off your college debt, you are a god damm fool. Does anyone think these protests are going to get any multi-million dollar Corporation anywhere to suddenly change the way they do business?

Ok, Well I still want to hear it.

I don't. But again I harken back to the WTO protests. It is nothing more than an amalgam of unemployed people (completely legitimate), anarchists, socialists, and disaffected youth, with a huge smattering of aging hippies, with the same anti-capatolistic gripes. No central theme other than people and corps with money are bad, and we want it. Or we want to send it to the gobberment so they can waste it.

Well, people do have the right to protest any old thing they want, so I guess lots of different people are protesting lots of different things there.

Personally, I think it's like having three 'sell stuff' parties at the same time. People just don't quite know what to spend their money on, so in the end they go home with nothing.

I believe that in order for protests to be effective, they have to be organised and specific. If no one really knows what your protesting about, how can they really fix the problem.

The y axis is the multiples of after tax income with 1979 set as 1.

Yabbut what does the word "cumulative" mean in that context?

The protests aren't going to change anything but I'm guessing a lot of the calls for government to pay off student debts has to do with the fact that many large Corporations had their debts paid off by the government for making bad decisions while these students will not. I disagree with the logic, I do believe in personal responsibility, but student debt is going to be a very large problem that has the chance of affecting everyone either directly or indirectly, so it shouldn't just instantly be dismissed. Also, it isn't a 30 year experienced CEO making mistakes, they are kids who can't even legally drink that are being exploited by the Universities to pay for research, which is actually very true. I don't necessarily feel bad for them but I will acknowledge that the entire University system is pretty messed up.

In my previous post, the REUTERS authors wrote:
Apparently, Lasn is a quick sex-change person, or
reporters can't write about someone and keep their gender constant.
Here is the FORBES reporter having a go at it...

FORBES
Investing 10/14/11 @ 3:09 pm

The Brains Behind "Occupy Wall Street"
Meet the second most evilest man in the world (after George Soros).
I'm thinking Kalle Lasn looks pretty masculine.

Lies and more lies from the Right.

Does not change the fact that these FOOLS think I, a tax payer should pay off THEIR debt. Screw them. I am paying for my own kids to go to college. Don't think for one minute that I am going to pay off their debt, regardless of the reason or some other esoteric bull shit reason.

I don't know. Don't the universities exploit their athlete's that they make millions of dollars off of and the athlete gets nothing for their service, other than on some occasions, a scholarship?

Great pic, but they are small examples. Here is one that is more mainstream...

More shit from the left.

Right. So the disgruntled and betrayed old veteran is an anomaly, but the bloke shitting on a cop car is mainstream?

ffs.


Look at all the other people behind and around the veteran. They look like a fairly wide mix of people.
Now look at the shitting guy. All alone. The rest of the demonstrators appear to be going along peacefully in the top left of the picture.