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WabUfvot5 11-18-2006 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint
I think he means victims of identity theft, which I suspect he has had some experience with.

That makes sense. However theft is always going to happen. Especially now in the online world. A national ID will not stop theft where your national ID is not required.

DanaC 11-19-2006 07:37 AM

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I don't expect cops to have to take a beating in an effort to avoid tasering an asshole who deserves it anyway.
I would question how he deserves it. I think, if the cops had to resort to physical violance, then they have lost control of the situation. If the university needs police to enforce their rules then that is a sad indictment on the university. He was a registered student who didn't see why he should show his pass to police whilst engaged in studies. I'm with the student on this one.

Clodfobble 11-19-2006 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DanaC
If the university needs police to enforce their rules then that is a sad indictment on the university. He was a registered student who didn't see why he should show his pass to police whilst engaged in studies.

Yes, and if the state needs police to enforce their rules, what a sad indictment of society. We should be able to live with no police at all!

He was a registered student? How were they supposed to know? All students are aware of the rule that students must show their ID in the library, this wasn't some random event, students are asked to show their ID on a regular basis.

DanaC 11-19-2006 10:23 AM

Why not just have barriers that read the barcode on the student ID at the entrance to the library? There are other ways to ensure that only registered students use the facilities, than using a police presence.

wolf 11-19-2006 12:53 PM

You, yourself, spoke of being allowed through the barrier without ID, simply because it was too inconvenient for you to remember to bring it along.

Physical security is only as good as the people who operate it.

DanaC 11-19-2006 03:11 PM

I am allowed three times per semester to enter without my pass, by talking to the receptionist and giving her my student ID number (hy06dsec) and she then buzzes me through. When she buzzes someone through it's entered onto the system, three times and then they say 'No sorry, you have to go get your pass'.


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