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Elspode 11-05-2006 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf
First reported one at your festival, you mean, els. There is a lot of social pressure at a pagan festival to, uh, how shall I put it ... share, be open, etc. etc. etc.

I do know of at least one reported rape in that environment. Usually, however, the male predators get away with it because of the above-described notion.

We're pretty adamant about educating our attendees not to do *anything* with which they are not comfortable. Anyone observed by our rather large Staff behaving inappropriately usually experiences an intervention from one of our burly, yet sensitive Safety Gods.

I cannot say definitively that sexual pressure does not occur at our Fest, or that women (or even men) sometimes succumb to that pressure, but I'd be fairly confident in saying that it probably happens less often per capita than with the public at large.

Aliantha 11-05-2006 05:33 PM

bmw...you're choosing to take offense. I have not used a swear word at you. I have patiently responded to your somewhat rude comments which have been directed at me. I have attempted to discuss the issue with you. As stormie has tried to point out, you have made an error in what you read. I never at all suggested in the course of this thread that men wear skirts in any way or how they might be viewed if they did, however, if you'd like to discuss that, then by all means, let's do so.

Otherwise (and as always), read the post, respond to it in a reasonable and thoughtful manner, or don't bother responding. :)

Oh, and just so that it's clear, I wouldn't FU if you were the last man standing or the first for that matter. I have a lot more class than that.

xoxoxoBruce 11-05-2006 06:08 PM

He screwed up, we all know it, but he's such an ass when he was called on it he flew into a hissyfit and claimed everyone else to be stupid without ever going back to see his mistake.
Even when I pointed to his mistake, to stop the wrangling, he couldn't see it....what a loser. :crazy:

DanaC 11-05-2006 06:46 PM

I really, can't see how a woman wearing skimpy clothes invites rape. Most rape is about control not sexual attraction.

9th Engineer 11-05-2006 07:31 PM

That's a good point. What about big chested women who wear low cut or tight tops and then get insulted when guys stare at their chests?

Ibby 11-05-2006 08:16 PM

now, THAT, 9th, pisses me off. What REALLY get me are those shirts that say "my eyes are up here", but any girl who wears skimpy clothes then gets mad for gettin' looked at has a problem.

DucksNuts 11-05-2006 09:06 PM

I'll agree with you both on that note.

If I wear low cut tops or short shorts, I wouldnt ever complain that guys are noticing but I DONT believe I am in any way inviting a guy to force himself on me (and I know neither of you, 9th or Ibram, are saying that I would be)

Aliantha 11-05-2006 09:38 PM

If you put the goods in the window, expect them to be oggled. ;) (she says as she sits here in her bikini)

DucksNuts 11-05-2006 10:39 PM

you know zippy will be in here screaming for pics in a minute!!

Aliantha 11-05-2006 10:44 PM

I'll probably be back in the pool by then. ;) (maybe even with my kini top off lol)

DucksNuts 11-06-2006 02:37 AM

have you got something in your right eye hun? :p

bmwmcaw 11-06-2006 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Stormieweather
Sex with men? Someone said something about sex with men? I thought sexualized was the word that was used. Sexualize = To make sexual in character or quality, not have intercourse with.

Skirts, Shirts..whatever? Aliantha never made any statement regarding men wearing skirts. YOU DID.

HUGE difference there bud. The point being that MEN that go without their shirts are macho and hot, which is OK, but WOMEN that go without their shirts (IE: TOPLESS you nincompoop) are sluts and asking for sex which is NOT OK.

Skirts or pants are completely irrelevant.

But you are unable to admit you made a mistake so you're sticking with your erroneous babble and adding insult to injury by flinging some verbal abuse about. How pathetic.

Stormie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aliantha
You'd rather be sexualised by men than women?


This is the quote I am insulted by. It is what I have been expressing my anger at. It is a repugnant and grotesque statement. Its not the first time a women has used the gay angle to belittle men that don’t eat out of there hands but it’s an offensive comment. Its written as a question doesn't hide its intent.

If I mistook skirt for shirt than that’s that, but my reply was in jest and she turn it into a despicable insult. I can’t even match it with profanity in response, it’s that bad. Homosexuality is an abomination of mankind.

In all my writing no matter how raw or direct it has been I have never attached on anyone in anyway such an immorality.

Here what "sexualized" can mean...

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/sexualized

Now heres the link to one of the definition...
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/sexual

Ibby 11-06-2006 08:06 AM

Quote:

This is the quote I am insulted by. It is what I have been expressing my anger at. It is a repugnant and grotesque statement. Its not the first time a women has used the gay angle to belittle men that don’t eat out of there hands but it’s an offensive comment. Its written as a question doesn't hide its intent.

If I mistook skirt for shirt than that’s that, but my reply was in jest and she turn it into a despicable insult. I can’t even match it with profanity in response, it’s that bad. Homosexuality is an abomination.

In all my writing no matter how raw or direct it has been I have never attached on anyone in anyway such an immorality.
I'm bisexual.

Youre still a jerk.

Any questions?


(psst, what do you think youre implying calling people 'sally's?)
(psst number two, do you eat shellfish? or wear polyester?

Abomination!)
(psst number three, if you think that calling or implying that someone is gay is an insult in any way, youre just proving yet again that youre a bigoted, prejudiced, closedminded, homophobic, sexist, perverted son of a motherfucker)

Undertoad 11-06-2006 08:21 AM

http://cellar.org/2006/haggard.jpg

You know what they say about people who preach hard against teh ghey.

About people who take really big offense at the suggestion.

Complain more, bm, and keep quoting the part you are outraged about over and over again. I'm sure it doesn't mean anything.

bmwmcaw 11-06-2006 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

You know what they say about people who preach hard against teh ghey.

About people who take really big offense at the suggestion.

Complain more, bm, and keep quoting the part you are outraged about over and over again. I'm sure it doesn't mean anything.

Your probably right but if I don't stick up for myself then who will..You, fat chance.

BTW, at least that guy admitted he was wrong and his action immoral.

You know what they say about people that say you know what they say.


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