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BigV 08-03-2006 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer
Hell, if someone had handed me a marker and a stack of shells after 911 I'd be writing till my hand cramped

Would you have taken your children and had them autograph them too? I will consider your answer carefully.

MaggieL 08-03-2006 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BigV
Would you have taken your children and had them autograph them too?

It's probably better than fitting them for toy suicide bomber vests.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/grap...29/wmid29.jpeg

xoxoxoBruce 08-03-2006 11:24 AM

Haven't seen many blonde suicide bombers. :rolleyes:

Kitsune 08-03-2006 12:14 PM

That's the first time I've seen the Reuters tag on that photo. Did they fall for the joke, too?

MaggieL 08-03-2006 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
Haven't seen many blonde suicide bombers.

How many suicide bombers have you seen? You wouldn't be doing racial profiling now, would you?

Maybe blondes tend to filter themselves out early. ("Is *this* the right button?")

Or, considering how kiddie-porned up the pic is, maybe the child isn't as blonde as the pic is.

Undertoad 08-03-2006 12:19 PM

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/m...oto/index.html

xoxoxoBruce 08-03-2006 12:27 PM

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How many suicide bombers have you seen? You wouldn't be doing racial profiling now, would you?
No, not profiling. I've seen quite a few pictures of the remains. The heads are usually more intact than the rest of them. :greenface

Shawnee123 08-03-2006 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

"A party where they dressed the cutest baby as a suicide bomber..."

What the fuck is WRONG with these people?:mad:

Kitsune 08-03-2006 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123
What the fuck is WRONG with these people?:mad:

Same thing that's wrong with this guy, I think. :confused:

MaggieL 08-03-2006 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitsune
Same thing that's wrong with this guy, I think.

Moral equivalance? I think not.

BigV 08-03-2006 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL
It's probably better than fitting them for toy suicide bomber vests.

I have considered your answer carefully, and I disagree. Both are reprehensible. Especially considering that the vest is almost certainly fake, and the artillery shells are almost certainly real. Additionally, I imagine what message is being sent to the children in each situation. For the "baby-bomber" it is no more than another dress-up, and certainly all the meaning is in the mind of the adult(s). For the kids signing the shells, at best they're being lied to, at worst they're being taught to hate. The baby is not being taught to hate, but those laughing at the unfunny joke have plenty of it.

My point is that it is wrong, in the worst possible way, to teach children to hate.

Kitsune 08-03-2006 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL
Moral equivalance? I think not.

Really? They were both simply joking.

MaggieL 08-03-2006 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BigV
The baby is not being taught to hate...

The hell sie isn't. Even if the lessons have begun before they can be completely understood, they surely will continue (at brainwashing intensity) throughout that baby's childhood. In fact, it's quite likely that baby will be issued a working suicide vest before the lessons can be completely understood.

Unless the whole area craters in the next 10 years.

The toy vest is reminicent of the cap-and-gown graduations they run for preschoolers these days. The diplomas aren't real working degrees, but they represent aspirations.

Kitsune 08-03-2006 03:56 PM

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I weep for the victims of baby brainwashing. These kids all died of liver disease by age three.

BigV 08-03-2006 05:46 PM

I'll bite, MaggieL.

Tell me what you think the baby's learning from what you can glean from that picture, please.

Now tell me what you think the two young girls in the previous picture are learning, please.

Now compare those two learning experiences. I will concede that a baby that age in proximity of adults stoopid enough to create such a photo will be surrounded by hate and learn accordingly. But I wasn't hypothesing about the future of the subjects of the pictures, I was talking about what's happening during the snapshot.

Feel free to brandish your "moral equivalence" crutch if you're not afraid to have it kicked out from underneath you. I'll repeat: Both are reprehensible. When you say "but not as bad as this..." you sound like a child justifying their part in some petty quarrel. [whine]But he hit me *first*! waah waah waah...[/whine].

They're **both** fucked up. If you can't acknowledge that, you have earned my disdain. If you can't understand that, you have earned my pity.


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