Per my earlier post, what does being Christian have to do with disliking homosexuality?
Biblically it is not a sin. Again, abomination is no worse than eating shrimp, planting mixed crops, wearing a polyester/cotton blend shirt or many other innocuous things we all do now... no different in any way.
So, please... tell me where Christianity comes into this argument?
It seems a bit deviant to worry about who someone is sleeping with to begin with.

Let me give this a shot...

I think there is a large group of people who don't "hate" gays but don't want to see homosexuality promoted to children. I don't know if it's just because of bad PR or what, but to many (otherwise bigotry-free) people, gayness is nothing more than a desire to perform unnatural sex acts in as disgusting a manner as possible. This opinion is reinforced when gay pride parades come to town -- what is it that they're proud of? Assless leather pants? Or just their ability to make breeders squirm by dry humping each other on Main Street?

If this isn't what being gay is all about, why is that all we see until a court case comes up? Suddenly, when confronted with a TV reporter, they ditch the leather pants in favor of suits and ties, and the issue becomes, "We just want to love who we choose. What's so wrong with that?"

Totally apart from issues of religion, public decency, marriage, etc. etc., there is a huge disconnect between the way gay people want to be defined and the way they allow their fringe element to define them. Which is it? Freedom to love who you choose, or freedom to blow truckers in rest stops?

I'm the motherfucking prophet, bitches.

Classy threat of violence in there too. Nothing says I'm open and tollerant than threatening to make tieing a guy to a fence and beating him to death 'look easy'.

Why can't it be both? :D



(so sorry. couldn't help myself. Carry on.)

It's the freedom to do both noodle, just the same way hetro couples can get married and have kids in the burbs or blow truckers in stops, no more, no less.

wow...interesting post, mr. noodle.....

i don't think it's right to put all homosexuals in the catagory of "rest stop trucker blowers", just like its not right to put all heterosexuals in the catagory of prostitues and johns. there will always be strange, odd and even "unnatural" behavior (if you choose to define it as that) in any group. but like any prejudice, it is wrong to judge an entire group by the worst or strangest of the group.

for example- not all white people are rednecks, and i don't want to be judged as a redneck, just because i'm white.

Jordon, I wasn't throwing that at you, I was just getting it out there because nothing makes me more angry than inequality or discrimination. If that statement applies to anyone it is only because that person is a bigot or discriminatory. It wasn't directed at anyone until YOU started spouting anti-gay rhetoric (yes, I qualify what you said as anti-gay rhetoric), because things were civil then. And, Jordon, you have yet to explain any reasonable, non-personal reason why there is a problem with this.

Unnatural is not exactly an accurate descriptor... it is completely natural, common to many species across the board, not just mammals.
Promote, is not an accurate description of what is happening either. Education of something that is a fact of life, is.
Will someone please answer my question... I have been studying Christianity for over twenty years and was in Seminary prep for a year in college and have yet to get an answer that is logical... other than a Bishop who said "it is not a sin and it makes not sense to me... in the Middle ages we used to perform same sex marriages. A little known fact." He was a hip dude.

Semantics is very important here. When you refer to promotion you need to specify exactly what is being "promoted" - you cannot claim to promote the fact that Gay People exist, because this is an irrefutable fact. This is a matter of accepting reality.

Same situation here:




Semantics is everything when buzzwords like "indoctrination" and "promotion" are being smeared all over the popular media outlets. Are we, as rational people, going to actually debate whether certain people have the right to exist?

agreed.

and it's not a matter of "tolerance." who wants to be tolerated? we all want to be accepted, and heaven forbid, appreciated.

so- homosexual couples exist, and must be accepted, hopefully even appreciated. it's what any person would want.

for those who claim to be christians- its the golden rule.

You pay school taxes because you own a home, not because you have kids in public school.
If you choose to put your kids in public school, you pretty much have to accept that they are a captive audience to the curriculum. How could teachers possibly be expected to seek approval, from each child's parents, for each day's lessons? It would take hours to make those phone calls, every day, on the off chance that someone might object to something at some point and want to pull their kid out for the day.

If you want more control of your child's education there are other options for you, like public cyber charter schools. They are free, they usually supply the computer, and you can shop around for the curriculum you like best.

:rolleyes:

Don't get your petticoats in a bunch, sister. That's no more a "call to violence" than predicting that Iran is about to have their asses handed to them. There is a vast differance between tolerance and endorsement, and by targeting seven year olds for indoctrination into the gay agenda, gays are setting back their cause by light years. Gay marriage was shot down in state after state in the last election. The pendulum is swinging back in the other direction now, and the results will be seen across the nation, not just Wyoming. It may be time to think about redecorating your closets.

Already done mine. See?

http://www.a-human-right.com/s_bashthis.jpg

http://www.pinkpistols.org

is this guy for real? someone tell me- he's faking this stuff, right?

(the "indoctrination" thing has already been properly addressed here, as has "endorsement" and "tolerance")

no really, this is a prank right? are we being punk'd?