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miketrees 08-03-2008 06:56 AM
Back on 109

But that's kind of the point really. Labels I mean. It's not agnosticism that is irritating. It is the suggestion that agnosticism is a superior intellectual position to either faith, or atheism. Intellectual agnosticism presupposes that atheism is closed to the unknown. It is not. That would be as absurd as holding that faith is not open to doubt.

xoxoxoBruce 08-03-2008 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Cicero (Post 473288)
I thought that they shut down the GM plants for trucks to make fuel efficient cars. I didn't know it was a Union thing.
It's not, you were right the first time.

DanaC 08-03-2008 07:00 AM
That doesn't mention intelligence. At no point have I said, or thought, that you believe agnostics are more intelligent than atheists.

DanaC 08-03-2008 07:02 AM
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Well DanaC if you are an atheist you have too much faith that you know everything
Stick with us agnostics, have a bet each way and admit there just might be things out there you have not seen or understood
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It is the suggestion that agnosticism is a superior intellectual position to either faith, or atheism. Intellectual agnosticism presupposes that atheism is closed to the unknown.

In your post, there is an inherent assumption that atheists assume they know everything, and that they are reluctant to 'admit' that there are things which they have not seen or understood.

miketrees 08-03-2008 07:06 AM
Yes

miketrees 08-03-2008 07:08 AM
I think Dana might just be a closet Agnostic.
Its OK dear you can come out, you are with friends

DanaC 08-03-2008 07:11 AM
*Chuckles* ach damn, you got me. Bang to rights.

miketrees 08-03-2008 07:13 AM
That was fun, can we snog now?

DanaC 08-03-2008 07:14 AM
I believe that's usual protocol.

miketrees 08-03-2008 07:16 AM
Ha ha
I think finally we might be making a tentative connection

DanaC 08-03-2008 07:20 AM
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I think finally we might be making a tentative connection
Is that what they call it these days?

DanaC 08-03-2008 07:24 AM
To go back to the original jist of the thread, does discovering that a scientist is also religious, make you question his capacity for scientific rigour?

regular.joe 08-03-2008 08:35 AM
Why would it? Niehls Bohr and Einstein two of the greatest physicists ever, believed in God. There are many who did/do not believe in God. But, you are not asking about the ones who don't.

You ask specifically about rigour, or rigor as we say here in the states. Why would being religious in any way interfere with with the capacity of a person to show rigor in their scientific research?

If that were true: does discovering that a scientist is a confirmed atheist make you question his capacity for scientific rigor?

regular.joe 08-03-2008 08:49 AM
I'm curious, a question for the atheists on the board. Do you believe that science disproves the existence of God?

If so, there is a statement. Science disproves the existence of God.

I would like to see the rigor proving that statement.

DanaC 08-03-2008 09:05 AM
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If that were true: does discovering that a scientist is a confirmed atheist make you question his capacity for scientific rigor?
No, but it might make me doubt his suitability for the priesthood.

I'm not, by the way saying that one should doubt the scientist's capacity for scientific rigour.


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