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But jeepers...with all the <a href="http://www.aetherlumina.com/gnp/">gender-neutral pronoun systems</a> in use, can't we do better than "it"? Quote:
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Are you actually basing your diagnosis on *pictrues* on my web site, Doctor? Quote:
It is indeed not simply a matter of choice...there's nothing simple about it. Or painless. Or inexpensive. In view of the fact that both the State of Pennsylvania and the Federal Avation Administration have taken legal note of my reassigned gender, I find your use of "he/she" in reference to me to be intentionally rude. "Sin of pride" indeed... |
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The pronoun issue is not my doing folks...it insists on using "it" to refer to itself...and I've spent quite some time getting used to that. And it still sticks in my Neanderthal throat. All I wanted to know is: Do I hold the door and pick up the check or not? Brian |
While I realize that sexual identification is a very complex subject, and that transvestitism is a recognized medical area, human gender is simply not nearly as fluid as MaggieL would have you believe.
No matter what sort of lifestyle you live, what sort of surgery or treatment you subject yourself to, if you were born with a Y chromosomeyou will be biologically male, and therefore (primarily) mentally male, for all of time. What philgump is trying to say is basically, don't wear your sexual preference(or any other group identification) on your sleeve, or as a chip on your shoulder. He seems to want gays to be judged just as everyone else is, on their individual merits, not to which tribe they belong to. MaggieL is obviously deeply involved in the gay-lesbian-transgender 'lifestyle'. She seems to think that being a member of that community means that mainstream acceptance or conformity is not only not necessary but even unacceptable. It's this sort of divisive fractionalism, this "us against them" mentality which I think is a bad idea. As long as you've divided people into "queers" and "straights" there will never be widespread acceptance of homosexuality. For example, it isn't as simple as "homosexual" and "heterosexual". MaggieL is more Quentin Crisp, philgump is more Rock Hudson. Lumping all the "queers" together does a disserve to everyone. |
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I don't see how you can say that someone who thinks and feels like a woman despite being XY has less insight into their own head than you do. How the heck do you know that they are primarily mentally male? What does that mean anyway? This insistence that everything is black and white or male and female is very naive. |
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(Actually you can't tell the ones who have actually been examined that way much, they had to be dead before their brains could be examined that way). "Y-chromosome=male brain" simply isn't true. It's *usually* true, but not *always* true. Y chromosomes *usually* make brains that find women attractive, too. But not always. The real world is more complicated than that. Quote:
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Am I supposed to be living in Key West now? Provincetown? Northhampton? The Castro? Should I have Judy Garland records? I *do* have a few k.d.lang, and there's even an Indigo Girls CD around here somewhere. Oh, wait...Judy is a gay *male* thing. Indigo Girls and k.d. are for the flannel shirt crowd. Damn....I don't have any flannel shirts either. I suppose I should drop out of the amateur radio club, even though I'll be on their board of directors next year. Actually, I tend to think of it as my "life". "Lifestyle" is an attempt makes it sound like some sort of superficial, changable ephimera, like a "hairstyle". Straight people have lives, queers "follow a lifestyle". Quote:
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Though the rest of his statement is wrong since group identification quite often is associate with clothing, in fact some religions have requirements on what people can or cannot wear. |
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If it IS true, I wonder if she's been in Sedalia all her life. It's a fucking podunk town an hour west of Kansas City...it's home to the Missouri State Fair. They don't take too kindly to "funny" people out in them parts. |
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As I see it, the only solution is to give the bisexual transsexual women all-access passes. :-) Quote:
I sure was glad when PennDOT finally issued me a drivers licence that caught up with my birth certifcate. If I was stopped by Officer Dullard on an isolated southern road, I didn't want to stiill have an "M" in the "sex" box, even if I pass a physical as female now. The update card they originally issued wouldn't help much in that situation...:-) As for the Janice Ashley story, I suppose it may be true, but female-to-male surgery still pretty much sucks. I'd want to see it somewhere besides "News of the Wierd" before I beleived it. There have been a few cases of gender detransition, but never to my knowlege among folks who followed the http://www.hbigda.org/soc.html]HBIGDA Standards of Care[/url] |
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Hey, I"m a straight white women but I don't want to just hang out with straight white women and men. Can I have an all sector pass too?
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By the way, I had to look up who Quentin Crisp was. I remeber him from <i>Orlando</i> now. Can't say I feel any particular resonance there. His cereal is too sweet, too; I prefer Cocoa Puffs. :-) |
Sin of Pride
umm I never mentioned a "Sin of Pride". I think I mentioned a "Sin of Tolerance". By the way a sin of pride is not what you think. A sin of pride does work with human situations, it only works if you are so prideful as to think that you do not need God and that you as a human can do it alone. That is the "Sin of Pride" you mentioned.
As far as he or she that is about the only pronouns I have up my sleeve unless 'IT' would be more preferable and you have already said that 'IT' was unacceptable. I have always been taught, that you should never offer up a problem without offering up a soulution. Therefore, what pronoun do you prefer people to use when speaking about or to you. |
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