1/9/2006: Dog fight

Sad one today. xoB/WaPo gets us this shot of a dogfight in Kabul, Afghanistan, where apparently this remains a lively hobby.

I guess it's a real sign of my evilness/callousness/whatever, but for some reason that picture doesn't elicit an emotional response in me at all. I feel bad in a remote way for the dogs because they're bloodied. But are they being truly abused? Any more than a professional boxer is abused? Common sense tells me that sure, they probably are. But look at the drugs, the physical beating, the long-term neurological effects of boxing.

Holes galore in my theory, I know. But the dogfighting thing has never really triggered my animal protection instinct (and yes, I have one).

Boxers choose to fight. boxers wear big thick gloves and mouth guards and get paid lots of money. The dont get limbs torn off, repeatedly bitten, and often die.. for nothing. Worse than nothing.

Look at these men in the shot.. shadows of men. pathetic. I hope one day the dogs turn on them.

I would be WAY more entertained if the guys watching were fighting. Talk about pass the buck.

Contraversial......to say the least.

please correct my spelling.

The photo shows two more dogs in the background ready to fight. They are sick people and yes I agree let the coward men fight and we'll happily watch them pull each other apart and draw blood. Makes me sad.

Totally fucked up. People can be such assholes.

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Holes galore in my theory, I know. But the dogfighting thing has never really triggered my animal protection instinct (and yes, I have one).[/QUOTE]
1st some dogs won't fight. Most dogs won't fight a bitch dog. My house dog will catch a cat, squrrel, rat or what ever. But won't fight another dog. She keeps them off my place though. I see a some replys from downunder. Do You think it was right years ago when a litter of pups were put it with sheep and the ones that didn't show any interest in sheep were took by hind legs and slammed on a fence post. Hey I love dogs and have had them as long as I can remember. I've never been to a paid dog fight, rooster or a chicken squat

I think they need more electronic toys, TVs, PCs and whorehouses.

there are more important things in the world to be offended and worried about than dog fights. and i know people gonna say i'm not being sympathetic but i am. i don't think it should happen but there are worse things.

I'll put $10 on the gold ...

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Originally Posted by VinDurzle Hmmm Shadows of men - hardly surprising after Russian and subsequent Taliban cultural opression. Pathetic - an interesting way to describe one of the greatest warrior races on the face of the planet.

Are you sure this isn't Detroit, Michigan?

nice mrnoodle nice....

I don't think that *I* or *we* (meaning the US/UK or similar) is more cultured. I think the majority of us are more civilized (note I said 'majority'. I worked with a woman whose husband had fighting chickens. Gross.) Fighting for sport, whether man or beast, is not very civilized. It certainly can be part of the culture, though.

Whenever I see two dogs meet they always wag their tails and sniff each other's butts. What makes these ones fight?

Boxers have one thing these dogs dont have: CHOICE. they can walk away and be a bricky, a builder, a pilot, a dole bludger. These dogs dont have that choice, they are mistreated animals, bred to be aggressive and forced to fight their peers whether they like it or not. The people who get financial gain from this firstly should be ashamed, and people who see this as entertainment should be equally ashamed.

I think that this just shows that there are parts of the world where civilization has been slow to come. Of course, there were some people in Virginia doing cock fights, but at least it was illegal.

What on earth is a dole bludger? Does it pay well? Should I come out of retirement to be one?

Australian slang gets a bit wacky sometimes, but I think it means a lazy person on welfare and/or unemployment.

I makes me sad, but we cant say any thing about thier culture. I am gonna cry now.

Why not?

If no one ever said anything we'd never actually get anything accomplished towards fixing things that are wrong.

Quien es mas macho?!
Pretty universal drive, it seems.

For thousands of years we have endeavored to domesticate these animals, with the result of profound comradery.
Most of them will protect us with their lives. This is their reward? Come on.... this is just downright wrong.
Plus..... they have eyebrows.

For me to encourage my dog(s) .... I have three, to fight would be the same TO ME as allowing my kids to fight outside of self defense. But what do I know. We won't be having any dog fights at Capnhowdy's house. I won't be a spectator either. So there.

If folks want to ram a pineapple up their ass, then they may do so. I think I'll pass. Likewise w/ the dog fights.

Dog fighting. Repulsive. I think that a culture that condemns rather than condones animal fighting would have the edge on that moral question.

I don't like human fighting, either. But humans can and will make decisions that only hurt themselves. It's their life.

Fighting dogs are trained that way, by humans; it's stupid human decisions, not dog decisions, that bring about these situations, so ultimately the humans are at fault. It's abuse of an animal that we have over thousands of years bred to be a companion.

haha hey yeah!! screw you guys.. im goin home!

Interesting tradition, but I'd have to say that people being entertained by this set off the same alarm bells as when you find a child that finds enjoyment in pulling the legs off of frogs and the vivisection of squirrels. Along the lines of "future serial killer", etc.

well theres differences

ok. well there are some things alike for all of these animals as well as people. Now im not saying that this is not depressing and that i dont have feelings for these dogs. But these dogs are trained to fight. thats what they were breaded/trained growing up to do. Boxers are trained to do this. So other then the fact that its not their choice, its not like they dont know how to do this. theyve done it their entire lives. altho i still think these people should go and get some therapy. this is also how THEY make THEIR living. its not their fault that some people just arnt smart enough for a real job. think about all those people. they could have had a LOT of proloms growing up. they could have a.d.d or a.d.h.d. over their they dont have nor can afford medication for those things. so some low life scum have to resort to un humanly things. hence dog fighting. thats all i have to say.

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Originally Posted by kkevin989 thats all i have to say

..quite moving..

It does upset me to see dogs fight like this. Wild dogs would not fight to death, it goes against every instinct in them. Generally speaking, most mammalian species will not fight one of their own kind to the death (there are exceptions). It is unnatural. Fairly typical of man though, to breed/train animals into doing something unnatural.

I don't think we should dismiss those men as pathetic shadows of men though. We know nothing of them, we know nothing of what they have experienced, survived, or sacrficed in their lives. If they are pathetic shadows of men for watching and participating in such a sport, then we can dismiss most humans through most of history in the same way.

The men for whom we should reserve that revulsion are those who continue such sports in a country where people are fully aware of animal rights and where the sports have been banned and publicised as cruel for a long time. There are men in my own country (I am assuming it's mainly men) who breed and train dogs for such fighting. Now they are worth contempt.

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Originally Posted by wolf Uh ... okay.

That's pretty much what I was assuming.

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Originally Posted by smithgr Are you sure this isn't Detroit, Michigan?

(and they're not wearing their pants with their crotch around their knees)