8/16/2005: Kiss, 60 years later

xoB catches this. The official caption says Carl Muscarello and Edith Shane, who claim to be the subjects in Alfred Eisenstaedt's famous VJ Day photograph, commemorate the image's 60th anniversary next to a statue of their historic kiss in New York's Times Square. But it's not an IotD without the kissers on the right.

"The times they are a changin' "

the mic position gave me a double take as well.

i bet they already owned the sailor hats.

Well, HELLO sailor!

attention whore

look look we're gay! See, we're gay! Everyone needs to know.... we're gay!

Nice positioning of the microphone in his hand, too.

<sigh>

Come on, we have to call bullshit on that pair of old fraudsters. I know we all shrink a bit as we get older, but the height disparity between the man and the woman is ridiculous - he's probably a foot and a half taller than her - whereas they're of the same height in the original picture.. He's taller than the sailor in the original picture by a fair way, to my eye, whereas she's gotten stumpier.

http://www.temple.edu/photo/photogra...mousworks.html

...did I mention that I was at Woodstock? And at the wall in '89...

mlandman--
So do you consider every opposite-sex couple that kisses in public to be flaunting their heterosexuality? Or is dispalying affection in public without being called an "attention whore" some sort of "right" conferred by heterosexual privilege?

Bullitt, he's not talking about their heights, he's mainly talking about their relative heights, and I see it too.

* The man appears to be taller than the man in the statue. (Is the statue accurate wrt scale in the photo?)
* The woman may or may not be shorter. It's hard to tell, and old people shrink anyway, so I'm not going to make much of that.
* The difference between their two heights is much greater.

Even accounting for shrinkage in the woman, the man appears to have gotten a lot taller. It doesn't seem like this would be such a hard thing to verify, but on the surface they don't look right.

is that an omnidirectional in your pocket or are you just glad to see me?

I would far rather see two people kissing, regardless of gender, than something more offensive like, say, fighting, suing each other, ripping each other off. Kissing is good.

BTW...did anyone else click on this IOTD title thinking they were going to see Gene Simmons in a wheelchair?

Plus, in the original photo, the sailor is bending over, so it's hard to tell exactly what the height difference is.

Besides women shrink a lot more than men do- men lose bone to osteoporosis, but since they have more to begin with it rarely affects height. And women get more curvature. Plus, notice that she is wearing heels in the original and sneakers today.

And need we mention that the scupture is not a photograph even if it was done from a photograph? So some of the height differential may be due to artistic license.

My grandmother used to be 5'8". She is now 4'10".

I read somewhere that this lady is the only one who ever claimed to be the woman in the photo, but that almost a dozen men have claimed to be the man. I think they picked this one guy not because they were sure, but because they wanted "the couple" for the commemoration ceremony.

I think it's cute that she'll only let him kiss her on the cheek this time.

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Originally Posted by mlandman look look we're gay! See, we're gay! Everyone needs to know.... we're gay! Nice positioning of the microphone in his hand, too. <SIGH>

If the gay guys were really trying to be flamboyant, they would have duplicated the original pose.

Since the guys aren't groping, they could just be clowning around, too.

What about the guy on the left - he seems to have his arm around one girl but is well into tonsil exploration with another - greedy old so-n-so, or should that be lucky. lucky, lucky old b*****d!

Oh, and on the growth thing, heard/read somewhere that the only body part to continue growing as you get older is the ears - check out your old folk to confirm - strange therefore that old people get hard of hearing - I SAID STRANGE THEREFORE....

And the nose.

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Originally Posted by capnhowdy When I kiss someone of the opposite sex in public, which is rarely, I am indeed flaunting my hetrosexuality. Or maybe I'm flaunting the fact that I'm not a queer. I prefer to see hetro contact because it doesn't make me I was looking for Mr. Simmons, too...........

Holding hands, fine ... but significant parts fondling, ass-grabbing, or face sucking is a definite public turnoff, no matter what the assortment of interlocking parts may be.

Welcome, bluraven.

RE Displaying affection in public:

There is a limit, be it hetrosexual or homosexual - and most of us learned it in our teens or 20s (depending) - probably the first time an older friend walked up and said "Enough - take it to a room, or stop..."

I hold BOTH groups to the same standard. Want to hold hands, hug, quickly kiss, etc - fine. You want to explore each others tonsils (or more), do it in private!

I understand why sometimes it seems that homosexuals SEEM to do more in public - it's partly the viewers shock, partly (often at parades/protests) it IS done to shock/get attention/get in your face - just like any other form of protest. I deal with it, and don't take my kids near protests of any kind (they are too young, although my eldest is now getting old enough to understand protests, so that will change)

Then again, I live in NYC, so seeing gay/lesbian couples isn't too much of a shock. It's life. That's part of the few things I LIKE about NYC - I hold a party, or go to a party with my friends, there will usually be various mixed race/mixed sexuality/mixed political couples and singles there - makes for an interesting party.

People usually call me "right wing" - but I'm not. I'm probably closer to what would be called a "classical liberal" - small, but progressive government, that stays out of peoples lives, and allows the people a lot of freedom - but I'm also not quite a libertarian - somewhere in between

All bets are off, of course, when you are participating in a public event about kissing.