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   Undertoad  Wednesday Mar 9 02:54 PM

3/9/2005: Rowing on ice



Pastoral today. The official caption: Head of the Charles rowing regatta Executive Director Fred Schoch (Front) and Assistant Director Chris Kerber (Rear) row through the ice on Boston's Charles River near the Harvard University Boathouse, March 1, 2005. The two men decided to go for a row in defiance of the continued wintry conditions in the Northeast of the United States in the month of March and to get ready for their regatta early this year.



lumberjim  Wednesday Mar 9 06:20 PM

just replying because i dont want to see an iotd go down in flames. but.....this is a bit boring.



capnhowdy  Wednesday Mar 9 06:45 PM

Then there ARE actually people out there as stubborn and bullheaded as yours truly.



Griff  Wednesday Mar 9 07:41 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by lumberjim
just replying because i dont want to see an iotd go down in flames. but.....this is a bit boring.
Don't beat up UT too much. We've all been a little out of it since the Grail's first round upset loss.


Undertoad  Wednesday Mar 9 07:50 PM

People have sent in better ones too I need an IotD breather since I've been doing it for so long. I want to build a submission/nomination device that will autopost to the thread, but it's hard.



xoxoxoBruce  Wednesday Mar 9 08:08 PM

Considering the winter Boston has had it's not surprising they're getting a little stir crazy. From the spacing of the oar marks I'd say they're making pretty good speed. Taking the same route back doesn't hurt either.



hampor  Wednesday Mar 9 08:19 PM

Long ago I was a crew Jock.

Great picture!

Typically the ice on the Charles breaks up in mid March, just in time for MITs spring break, when the crew team starts doing twice a day practices. Until then it's weights, rowing in the tank, and running up the Green Building.

The first race is on April 2.

Dartmouth has it much worse. They usually only get a week between ice-out and the first race. Needless to say their record tend to improve as the season goes on.



xoxoxoBruce  Wednesday Mar 9 08:24 PM

Dartmouth needs an Endless Pool to train in.



Griff  Wednesday Mar 9 08:45 PM

Maybe a pic thread feeder with a limited thread life? General acclamation to move a pic over to the p-o-t day er... iod thread? You do so well with it though and its one of the real hooks here, do you really want to hand the keys over? It might get sucky...



Griff  Wednesday Mar 9 09:07 PM

Make Lumberdave do it!



Clodfobble  Wednesday Mar 9 09:42 PM

I was under the impression you were overflowing with images... I come across interesting things often but think, "Nah, I bet someone's already sent it to him." Maybe if people just made an effort to send you more, it wouldn't be too much work?



Undertoad  Wednesday Mar 9 11:10 PM

The hardest part is the posting - if I just wrote the autopost part it would be a lot easier. Enh, I'll work on it. IotD must go on and improve!



Slight  Thursday Mar 10 12:47 AM

I agree and disagree with lumberjim. The picture is boring in terms of composition. The subject however, rowing through ice is intriguing, like riding a bike on ice, because you can. I totally disagree with lumberjim that IotD is going down. I think UT does a great job, day in, day out (that is hard work) with subjects that are always mind twisting. kudos UT.



hampor  Thursday Mar 10 01:51 AM

Tanks for the endless pool

Any decent college crew already has a rowing tank that's kind of like the endless pool. There are some good pictures here: http://www.durhamboat.com/TANK.HTM

The problem is that rowing in the tank only gets you so far. It's like training for a marathon on the stairmaster. It's better than nothing, but it's not the real thing.

The hard part about rowing (besides the blisters on your palms, gasping for breath, and those times when both legs fall asleep and you have to stumble around on the dock in your socks through the goose turds) is balance.

The boats balance OK if all the rowers put the oars in the water. It's when they lift oars up that the boat can flop to the left or right. If the ports each raise their blades a little, and the starboards all lower a little, then the shell is going to lean over to the left. It's kind of like balancing on a tightrope with a balance pole, except that four people are hold the left pointing half of the pole, and four are holding the right half.



xoxoxoBruce  Thursday Mar 10 05:02 AM

Thanks Hampor, that's pretty cool. I didn't know that kind of thing existed.
Do those boats (shells, skulls) have any kind of keel? I know some canoes do and some don't.



lumberjim  Thursday Mar 10 06:13 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Slight
I agree and disagree with lumberjim. The picture is boring in terms of composition. The subject however, rowing through ice is intriguing, like riding a bike on ice, because you can. I totally disagree with lumberjim that IotD is going down. I think UT does a great job, day in, day out (that is hard work) with subjects that are always mind twisting. kudos UT.
no no no. not what i meant at all. i said AN iotd. as in ...it had been several hours and no one had replied to this ONE PARTICULAR thread. i didnt want to see it drop off the bottom with no replies, so i was just goosing it back up even though i really had nothing to say about it. UT does a fantastico job of the iotd. no complaints here, believe me.


Trilby  Thursday Mar 10 08:41 AM

Can we get more pics from Spain? There was a run of Spanish IotD--the running of the bulls, the great tomato-fight, the naked bicyclists...let's go back to Spain!!
...Or, Mexico!!



sandra77  Thursday Mar 10 10:09 AM

This picture was very intriguing for me but I am from the west where we don't do a lot of this kind of thing. I have enjoyed learning more about it from all of your posts.

Undertoad, I am sorry you are feeling burnt out. I love checking the image of the day. I have often seen the picture already but your narrative adds a special point of view.

Let me know where I can send potential IoTDs. If I have any comments I will add those. Maybe they will spark something for you.

Sandra



Catwoman  Thursday Mar 10 11:33 AM

if only they were skating. and it was thin ice.



jaguar  Thursday Mar 10 12:11 PM

Guess it's true...

Quote:
Netcraft confirms it, IOTD is dying. One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered IOTD community when IDC confirmed that IOTD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all images. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that IOTD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. IOTD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by sympathetic claims of being burnt out in the recent peanut gallery comprehensive off-the-cuff opinion test.
Ok I'm all geeked out now.


BigV  Thursday Mar 10 12:14 PM

What? Southwest? West Arizona?

Quote:
Originally Posted by sandra77
This picture was very intriguing for me but I am from the west where we don't do a lot of this kind of thing. I have enjoyed learning more about it from all of your posts.
--snip--
Sandra
Hey, Seattle qualifies as "West" of a lot of other places, and we have this.


hampor  Thursday Mar 10 12:36 PM

even keel

I don't know about skulls, but for crew shells there is sometimes just a little bit of a keel at the tail, and then the rudder. For most of the length it's sort of a semicircle. Here's a picture of a cross (very cross) section. http://www.jrshells.com/pages/jrs_vespoli_repair.html

What I found intriguing is the risk that they took. The ice could have esily drifted closed and then they would have to walk home.



Elspode  Thursday Mar 10 04:03 PM

I almost submitted this exact picture a few days back, but decided that it was probably too bland for most people. I, however, thought it was pretty damn cool.



BigV  Thursday Mar 10 07:09 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elspode
I almost submitted this exact picture a few days back, but decided that it was probably too bland for most people. I, however, thought it was pretty damn cool.
'scuse me, but just how does one submit a picture, please?


Undertoad  Thursday Mar 10 08:19 PM

Forward as attachment to undertoad@cellar.org

Don't be put off if I don't use it

Thanks in advance!



jaguar  Thursday Mar 10 08:23 PM

you know you should put a frigging huge link saying that somewhere.



Undertoad  Thursday Mar 10 08:54 PM

You're right... actually I should just get the submission thingie done and be done with it.



jaguar  Thursday Mar 10 09:01 PM

I'd turn something out for you but I still haven't had time to get the kinks out of the map app.



xoxoxoBruce  Thursday Mar 10 09:16 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigV
Hey, Seattle qualifies as "West" of a lot of other places, and we have this.
That site has a cool poster from last years races.


xoxoxoBruce  Thursday Mar 10 09:18 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by hampor
I don't know about skulls, but for crew shells there is sometimes just a little bit of a keel at the tail, and then the rudder. For most of the length it's sort of a semicircle. Here's a picture of a cross (very cross) section. http://www.jrshells.com/pages/jrs_vespoli_repair.html

What I found intriguing is the risk that they took. The ice could have esily drifted closed and then they would have to walk home.
It looks like the area below the deck is sealed off for a water tight chamber......or smuggling drugs and illegal aliens.


Slight  Friday Mar 11 04:39 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by lumberjim
no no no. not what i meant at all. i said AN iotd. as in ...it had been several hours and no one had replied to this ONE PARTICULAR thread. i didnt want to see it drop off the bottom with no replies, so i was just goosing it back up even though i really had nothing to say about it. UT does a fantastico job of the iotd. no complaints here, believe me.
cool.


LabRat  Friday Mar 11 02:27 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by jaguar
I'd turn something out for you but I still haven't had time to get the kinks out of the map app.
Oh, good. I thought you just forgot about that. Speaking of, I have tried multiple times unsuccessfully to create a Paypal acoount to use on Ebay (and here), but the damn thing never sends me a confirmation email so I can get on with the registration.


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