Undertoad Wednesday Oct 13 12:38 PM10/13/2004: Massive fish death in India
And you thought you had a bad job. This guy is collecting dead fish out of Kankaria Lake in Ahmedabad, western India. What happened?
Pollution. But not the usual sort. They say "the ritual immersion of Hindu Ganesha elephant deity idols made from plaster of paris and chemical dyes contaminated the water during a recent festival."
Troubleshooter Wednesday Oct 13 12:40 PMAnd the next question is how many people are going to die from eating such an easily harvested batch of poisoned fish.
Cyber Wolf Wednesday Oct 13 12:52 PMOoooh the smell...the smell!!
Kitsune Wednesday Oct 13 01:45 PMWait -- why are people collecting these fish? I hope they don't plan on eating them.
Pie Wednesday Oct 13 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Kitsune
I hope they don't plan on eating them.
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You've never smelled a fish lorry driving by in Vizag during July. There are worse fish than poisoned ones.
- Pie, always vegetarian while in India...
Elspode Wednesday Oct 13 02:05 PMGanesh is the Hindu god who removes obstacles. Perhaps these fish were interfering with something...
xoxoxoBruce Wednesday Oct 13 07:30 PMThe top picture was published in the Washington Post with the following caption.
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Oct. 12: A worker collects fish killed by a lack of oxygen in Kankaria Lake in the western Indian city of Ahmedabad.
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footfootfoot Wednesday Oct 13 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Elspode
Ganesh is the Hindu god who removes obstacles. Perhaps these fish were interfering with something...
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Happy Monkey Wednesday Oct 13 10:30 PMWater needs to be oxygenated for fish to survive. If some chemical binds to and removes the oxygen, the fish will die.
Kitsune Wednesday Oct 13 10:34 PMIf some chemical binds to and removes the oxygen, the fish will die.
Oh, no! There must have been a hydrogen spill!
Hmm... I guess you can accurately say, "These fish drowned."
cam2 Wednesday Oct 13 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Kitsune
Wait -- why are people collecting these fish? I hope they don't plan on eating them.
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You can't leave that many dead fish laying out in the water, they'll end up killing off even more animals.
wolf Wednesday Oct 13 11:34 PMI know I'm a narrow minded, boorish American, but ... wouldn't that be easier with a couple boats and a net?
Shifting all those fish with small baskets is like digging a hole in a mountainside with a pair of nail clippers.
Elspode Wednesday Oct 13 11:40 PMAh, I see you are familiar with Indian tunnel-boring technologies.
Eric Thursday Oct 14 12:23 PMSo maney dead fish! In my homeland, people thrown the poisonous pills into the river to get the fish.so i have seen this scene before.
Trilby Thursday Oct 14 12:30 PMthrowing poisonous pills in the river to "catch" the fish doesn't seem very sporting, does it?
Kitsune Thursday Oct 14 12:38 PMPreferred fishing method:
Elspode Thursday Oct 14 01:58 PMDoesn't sound like it would make them much good for consumption, either.
wolf Thursday Oct 14 02:14 PMI hear it's a lot better, actually. They're dead before they know what hit them, no fear poisons released into the flesh ... more humane too, no struggling against the hook and all that.
Of course, you end up with extra.
busterb Thursday Oct 14 02:20 PMBoudreaux & the Game Warden Go Fishing
This Louisiana game warden had been keeping an eye on the fishing docks, when after about a week he noticed that Boudreaux had been coming back every day with a boat full of fish. One day he starts to talk to Boudreaux as he's pulling his boat in. The warden says,'Boudreaux, I been watchin you. I notice every day dat you been comin' in wid a full load of fish. You must be havin some good luck? Eh?" Boudreaux answers, "May yah, dem fish is easy to catch." The game warden replies, "Well listen. I got me a day off comin next Saturday. I was wondring, maybe I could go an fish wid you?" Boudreaux replies, "May dat be no problem. Jus make shore you be here at dat 6 a.m. sharp. Cause I gonna leave dis dock wid or widout you." "May I'll be here, don't chu worry none about dat" answers the warden.
Saturday comes and the game warden is waiting at the dock when Boudreaux pulls up and puts his boat in the water. The game warden gets in and Boudreaux proceeds to drive the boat out to the middle of the lake. At this point, Boudreaux shuts off the engine and lets the boat glide to a stop. The game warden, who'd been curious anyway, says to Boudreaux, "May Boudreaux, I been lookin aroun dis boat, and I notice dat all you don brought was dis here ice-chest and dat little brown paper bag under your seat. May, you don't even got no fishin pole." Boudreaux answers, "May, dat be because dats all I need" And he proceeds to pull a stick of dynamite out of the brown paper bag, lights it, thows it in the water and watches it go boooom! All the fish in the area, being stunned, float to the top of the water.
The warden, by this time, can't believe his eyes. Half yelling, he says to Boudreaux, "May Boudreaux, I know we been knowin each udder for a long time, but man, you can't be doing dat, especially wid me being a game warden n all. May, dat's agin de law in a big way dat is." Boudreaux, without say a word, calmly reaches down into the bag (with the warden still rattling off), pulls out a stick, lights it, hands it to the warden and says, "You gonna talk, or you gonna fish?"
Happy Monkey Thursday Oct 14 02:24 PMI'm guessing Elspode was referring to the poison pill, rather than the TNT....
Elspode Thursday Oct 14 02:39 PMYes, I was...but strangely, I considered telling the exact same joke that Buster did, but decided everyone had probably already heard it.
xoxoxoBruce Thursday Oct 14 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Kitsune
If some chemical binds to and removes the oxygen, the fish will die.
Oh, no! There must have been a hydrogen spill!
Hmm... I guess you can accurately say, "These fish drowned."
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Stop that!
Eric Thursday Oct 14 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Brianna
throwing poisonous pills in the river to "catch" the fish doesn't seem very sporting, does it?
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yes, it does. peopel remove fishs' viscera as fast as they can, so they not fear the poison release into the fish. it is still good for consumption.
This action always means fatal destruction for fish. fortunately, it has been forbided by the local government
Kitsune Thursday Oct 14 11:15 PMMmm... "Poison, poison, poison, tasty fish!"
xoxoxoBruce Friday Oct 15 09:00 PM
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fortunately, it has been forbided by the local government
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That's a good idea in that the poison kills much more than the fish you want.
BTW- welcome to the Cellar, Eric.
York Sunday Oct 17 04:07 AMIf the people know what the fishes died from, they will be told if they are good for consumption or not....i hope! Otherwise they will see it as a great oppurtunity to get those fishsticks!
Eric Sunday Oct 17 05:43 AM
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BTW- welcome to the Cellar, Eric.
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Thx.Bruce. and nice to meet you all guys in the cellar. BTW, I come form china , so pls forgive me if i say some wrong words because the English is not my mother tongue
York Sunday Oct 17 06:28 AMdont worry Eric, mine isnt either...but people seem to understand me pretty good! haha
Eric Sunday Oct 17 09:24 AM
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dont worry Eric, mine isnt either...but people seem to understand me pretty good! haha
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so, where are you come from , york?
xoxoxoBruce Sunday Oct 17 06:35 PMWhere in China, Eric? We have a couple of members there.
Eric Monday Oct 18 04:54 AMGuangdong province china.Bruce , maybe you know billy who is my colleague.actually, he tell me this good cellar.
OnyxCougar Monday Oct 18 10:14 AM
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he tell me this good cellar
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Amen. It *is* good cellar, isn't it?
xoxoxoBruce Monday Oct 18 11:07 PM
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Guangdong province china.Bruce , maybe you know billy who is my colleague.actually, he tell me this good cellar.
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Oh, your one of Ding's friends. Cool, I hope you enjoy the Cellar.
Eric Tuesday Oct 19 02:52 AMI hope too and thx
xoxoxoBruce Tuesday Oct 19 11:05 PMHey, are you named after Eric the Red?
Eric Wednesday Oct 20 03:59 AM
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Hey, are you named after Eric the Red?
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what's mean of "Eric the red"??
glatt Wednesday Oct 20 08:48 AM
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what's mean of "Eric the red"??
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"Eric The Red" was a Viking explorer. He discovered Iceland or Greenland. I forget which. Maybe he found both. His son reached America centuries before Columbus.
CharlieG Wednesday Oct 20 03:05 PMAs I often tell my wife, Eric the Red also knows rain - "Eric the red knows rain, dear"
dar512 Wednesday Oct 20 04:56 PM
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As I often tell my wife, Eric the Red also knows rain - "Eric the red knows rain, dear"
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Trilby Wednesday Oct 20 05:10 PMEric the Red is the ancestor of my people! Jump off, ye foul what-efer-'tis-ye are!
Eric Thursday Oct 21 12:07 AM
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As I often tell my wife, Eric the Red also knows rain - "Eric the red knows rain, dear"
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yeah, i know rain too.I can forecast the weather if it will be rain or not by observeing the cloud move direction.it sounds i am as great as Eric the red, doesn't it? If you want to get the skill as me, i give you 4 key points:
if the sky get black and dusk, you need pay attentiong to it:
1.the cloud towards the North, it will be sunny soon.
2.the cloud towards the East, it will be non-rain.
3.the cloud towards the South, it will be heavy rain.
4.the cloud towards the west, it will be slight rain.
Ps: maybe,there is some different between china and usa.
BrianR Thursday Oct 21 02:43 PMLemme check my Farmers' Almanac and get back to you!
Eric Friday Oct 22 02:32 AMBrianr, do u have the farmer's almanac?? or are u a farmer?
Brown Thrasher Friday Oct 22 01:23 PMI wonder how many showers it took to get the stench off that poor fellow. Damn where's the soap.........
BrianR Friday Oct 22 03:07 PMYes, Eric. I do have a copy of the Farmers' Almanac. I buy one every year. No, I am not a farmer. To the contrary, I manage to kill every plant I come across. I buy it for the predictions, homespun wisdom and silly advertisements. All in all, not a bad way to waste a few bucks.
Brian
wolf Saturday Oct 23 01:41 AMEric, if you want an idea of what is in the "Farmer's Almanac" you can go to their website.
Oooh wow ... checked the long range weather and there's a lunar eclipse slated for Oct 27th!!
Eric Saturday Oct 23 02:09 AMthx, wolf. u show me a interesting website.I am thinking now if i can observe this lunar eclipse in china.
Brianr, it seem that the farmer's almanac were not used only by the farmer.
Brown Thrasher Tuesday Oct 26 11:22 PM
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Yes, Eric. I do have a copy of the Farmers' Almanac. I buy one every year. No, I am not a farmer. To the contrary, I manage to kill every plant I come across. I buy it for the predictions, homespun wisdom and silly advertisements. All in all, not a bad way to waste a few bucks.
Brian
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Pleae try not to kill all the plants you come across. Some have medicinal and psycological value.
BrianR Wednesday Oct 27 02:51 PMNever ask me to baby-sit your fern.
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