Dec 7th, 2019 : A Day That Will Live in Infamy

The President said so because of this...



But that was just the beginning of the total war...




Of course like everything else these days there are Monday morning quarterbacks telling us what we coulda, shoulda, woulda.
Fuck them, they weren't there.

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce Of course like everything else these days there are Monday morning quarterbacks telling us what we coulda, shoulda, woulda. Fuck them, they weren't there.

I couldn't bring myself to click on "Experiments" on the Unit 731 web page.
And I hope this doesn't mean what it sounds like :
"In Japan, not one was brought to justice. In a secret deal, the post-war American administration gave them immunity for prosecution in return for details of their experiments."

"I couldn't bring myself to click on "Experiments" on the Unit 731 web page."
Diaphone Jim

I did it was worse than I imagined.

And that's just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Japanese atrocities.

I find it helps, both emotionally and practically, to classify them as "human" atrocities. Because for one, this type of thing has been perpetuated by lots of cultures throughout history (medieval torture devices, for example, have entire college courses devoted to them), but more importantly, to assign atrocities to the individual culture is to take the first step down the path of seeing them as inhuman... Which, of course, is precisely the attitude that leads to these atrocities in the first place. "They" didn't do this. "We" do this to each other.

Do unto others, as you would have others Do unto you. And if you hear of our governments doing such things Protest Vigorously.

Amen. Amen.

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble But more importantly, to assign atrocities to the individual culture is to take the first step down the path of seeing them as inhuman... Which, of course, is precisely the attitude that leads to these atrocities in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Undertoad They are us, and we need to be ever-vigilant that we don't turn into the same thing. Also, we are 100% definitely turning into the same thing.

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"It’s not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people."

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Originally Posted by Diaphone Jim I couldn't bring myself to click on "Experiments" on the Unit 731 web page. And I hope this doesn't mean what it sounds like : "In Japan, not one was brought to justice. In a secret deal, the post-war American administration gave them immunity for prosecution in return for details of their experiments."

We did the same with German rocket/weapon scientists.

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble I find it helps, both emotionally and practically, to classify them as "human" atrocities. ...

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce Of course like everything else these days there are Monday morning quarterbacks telling us what we coulda, shoulda, woulda. Fuck them, they weren't there.

I watched Midway tonight, we just may win this thing.