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Grime’s Graves is a pock marked section in Thetford Forest in Norfolk, England. I don’t know who the hell Grime is, but he’s
probably hiding from a lynch mob because there’s no graves. What is there is the remnants of over 400 holes in the earth where
flint was mined, starting at least 4500 years ago, around the same time the Druids were erecting monuments at Stonehenge and
at Avebury.

Of course we all know the purpose of flint is cutting, slashing, stabbing, skinning, maiming, and butchering, as well as lighting up
your musket or Zippo.

The flint runs in seams through the chalk strata, so every year or two they’d dig a pit more than 14 meters(46 ft) deep and
12 meters(39.4ft) across at the surface, using antlers for picks and wooden shovels. They’d dump the diggings in last years pit.
At the bottom lateral tunnels followed the flint seams because after digging that hole they wanted to grab as much flint as they
could. In the tunnels light came from lamps made by scooping out hollows in the chalk walls and filling them with animal fat or
oil and floating wicks, Must have been pungent.

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It is estimated that a medium-depth shaft could have yielded as much as 60 tons of flint nodules that could have produced
as many as 10,000 polished stone axes. Extrapolation across the site suggests that Grime's Graves may have produced
around 16-18,000 tons of flint across the 433 shafts recorded to date. Mining continued at Grime’s Graves until about
1400 BC. In this later period, the pits became shallower and lacked underground galleries.

OK, then Grime should be Grim.
Grim is the Devil.
The Grimms were brothers.
So the Devil is a Bro.
Cool.

I had no idea this type of flint-mining existed. I'm going to ask dad and uncle if they've ever seen anything like this.

The flint tools from Texas are made from pieces of flint you could easily find near the top of the ground, especially after it rains, or the fields have been plowed. I suppose, if larger pieces are further down, and if the Native Americans had looked further down, they would have had larger tools?

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Grimsby was settled by Danes sometime in the 9th century AD. According to legend, the name Grimsby derives from the name Grim, a Danish fisherman,[10] the suffix -by being the Old Norse word for village. The legendary founding of Grimsby is described in Lay of Havelock the Dane, but historians consider this account to be myth.
In Norse mythology, Grim (Mask) and Grimnir (Masked One) are names adopted by the deity Odin (Anglo-Saxon Woden) when travelling incognito amongst mortals, as in the short poem known as 'Grimnir's Sayings' (Grimnismal) in the Poetic Edda.[11] The intended audience of the Havelock tale (recorded much later in the form of The Lay of Havelock the Dane) may have understood the fisherman Grim to be Odin in disguise. The Odinic name 'Grimr/Grim' occurs in many English placenames within the historical Danelaw and elsewhere in Britain, examples being the numerous earthworks named Grimsdyke.[12] As other British placenames containing the element Grim are explained as referring to Woden/Odin (e.g. Grimsbury, Grimspound, Grime's Graves, Grimsditch, Grimsworne), Grimsby is likely to have the same derivation.
Grimsby is listed in the Domesday Book as having a population of around 200, a priest, a mill and a ferry.

Please, please, please. Somebody that knows how to do it, link in photos of the Mima Mounds in Washington state. They are the opposite of these dips. Thank you ever so much.

Flint weapons and tools having long since disappeared from the catalogue, flint became a building material.
Brick and flint houses can be seen all over south and east England and are still being built today.
These old cottages are in Norfolk on the same chalk belt as Thetford, above.

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Many of these buildings will be in conservation areas so repairs and renovations will have to be made using original materials.
New houses tend to look a bit stark, but there's nothing that a couple of centuries of weathering won't put right.

Very much in FWIW territory, but when researching my family history I found one strand of my family had the surname Flint.
I traced them back into deepest Yorkshire in 1770.

Your contributions are always worth reading.

Condolences on the Flint in the family tree.

That reminds me, where the hell is blueboy56? I made a whole thread for him, rush rush, set aside what I had prepared, and he doesn't show up.

I wonder if he has a financial interest in Mima Mounds?

Then again, maybe somebody kidnapped his sainted mother until he got Mima Mounds posted?

Just kidding, he'll be back, they all come back after UT's koolaid.

Again sorry for the delay. I was doing reasearch by jumping up and down on the mounds, then looking on google maps to see of any of the Grimey holes poked out.

I wonder if the Gypsum in Nova Scotia is related to the White cliffs of Dover? Were they once attached at the lip, as it were, back in the Pangaea days?

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The cliffs themselves were formed at the same time as the Strait of Dover, by ice-age floods.
The cliffs are mainly soft white chalk with a very fine-grained texture, composed primarily of coccoliths, plates of calcium carbonate formed by coccolithophores, single-celled planktonic algae whose skeletal remains sank to the bottom of the ocean during the Cretaceous and, together with the remains of bottom-living creatures, formed sediments. Flint and quartz are also found in the chalk.[8] White cliffs like those of Dover are also found on the Danish islands of Møn and Langeland and the island of Rügen in Germany. The chalk cliffs of the Alabaster Coast of Normandy, France, are part of the same geological system as Dover's cliffs.

Mima Mounds

Flint house? Doesn't flint give off a pungent smell when it gets wet?

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A rock outcropping next to the town's ball field marks the spot where two continents crashed together 250 million years ago. When the land masses began to pull apart again, a hunk of what might have become Africa remained clinging to North America. Deep River is one of the few places where the ''suture line'' can be viewed.
For a long time, millions of years, in fact, the suture was not visible. Then, a few years ago, a Boy Scout troop and the Deep River Land Trust joined to dig a trench across the central part of the rock ledge, which is right along Route 154 at the entrance to Devitt Field. They removed several inches of dirt that had been deposited on top of most of the ridge during the last Ice Age about 18,000 years ago. When they were done, a band of rock lay exposed.

How quaint. In Washington, we call this a summit, often found near mountains, sometimes in the presence of trails.

Quaint? You pompous motherfucker, mountains are not erections, you had no hand in creating the geology, or geography of WA which only came about for raping nature, and thee only reside there by happenstance.

Having spent considerable time there, I will admit it's attractive, if you can put up with changes in climate every 75 miles. But viewing lovely scenery is like seeing a gorgeous street walker when you can't be late for work. Makes an unpleasant commute.

The MA turnpike has a sign saying highest point on I-90 east of the Rockies.

Clearly jealous. Pacific Northwest is well known as the very best place in the US of A!

Everyone is comfortable where they live because they know it's strengths and flaws, no surprises. Tourism is about surprises, the more the better, new scenery, weather patterns, local customs, lots of stimulus. That's where the expression, "but it's good to be home" comes from.

Wasn't for some civilizations God's Country (or the equivalent) some place to stay the hell away from unless you're a powerful Shaman?

Wow big V. That's pretty pathetic with the no-thanks. Total BS too. Sure fine if you want to discuss religion/no-religion but that's NOT what "Satan" stuff stands for.

Correct!

The SATAN part is just eye catching (and nose thumbing) marketing, just like GOOD NEWS is for the other clubs whose real agenda is proselytization. Just for humanists instead of christians.

The choice of name was deliberate to thumb their nose at the GNC clubs. The downside of the choice is the general public will react to Satan with strong opinions and gut feelings, further dividing the people and moving the divide down the age scale. Once people are turned off by the name they don't want to hear the details. If they had called it Science rather than Satan parents would have listened to the details.

"Science" wouldn't have worked; they wanted to use the "It's OK to have religious groups" loophole in an attempt to close the loophole. They're trying to harness that gut feeling to get the loophole closed, and themselves banned.

They could have used a parody religion, like Discordians or SubGenius, but that would require a lot more backstory in the local news. They could have used a real religion that the Christians might object to, but that would bring collateral damage on the actual members of that religion.

OK, I didn't understand the strategy was to close the loophole since the SCOTUS opened it. Do they really think they can piss off enough people to get legislation passed that will stand up in court?

Hard to say, but there are probably a lot of jurisdictions where angry religious people trying to get Satan out of their school have more power than an atheist group.

And in the meantime, more humanist propaganda propagates. This is a good thing in my book.

xoB, you are absolutely on the mark when you say that a lot of people will be interested, but worried about the backlash for their little Johnny or Susie. When this story was in the local news, 11 families showed up to the open house meeting at the local school, but only one had the courage of their convictions sufficient to "join". And one member did not a club make. The other parents were interviewed and were generally sympathetic to the idea described by HM, but not enough to subject their kid to the inescapable harassment. Sad but true. It does look like the got a club stood up north of here in Mt Vernon, though. Good for them.

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The Protect Children Project utilizes the First Amendment to protect public school students from being subjected to corporal punishment, solitary confinement, physical restraints, and the deprivation of bathroom access as these abusive practices violate our religious belief of bodily inviolability. When a student registers, we notify their school board that harming this student would violate their civil rights.

Corporal punishment is legal in 19 states and over 110,000 children are legally hit in school each year with many requiring emergency room visits.

Tens of thousands of children in public schools in all 50 states are placed in solitary confinement as punishment. This practice in on the rise in schools even though seclusion is being phased out of prisons.

Despite being a basic violation of human rights, deprivation of bathroom access is so commonplace in school that no government agency even bothers to track this.

TST’s Protect Children Project utilizes the First Amendment to protect public school students who share our sincerely held beliefs of bodily inviolability from these abuses. When a student registers, we notify their school board that harming that student would violate their civil rights.

We are putting the worst school districts on notice by posting billboards near their schools announcing that students no longer have to be subjected to their sadistic practices. The billboards also broadcast to the rest of the world how sickeningly shameful these schools are.

Springtown, Texas was chosen as the site for our first billboard not only because they routinely hit students, but because the district took no punitive action against a male vice principal after he beat two female students despite the school having a policy that prohibits male administrators from hitting female students. Rather than arrest or, at the very least, fire the vice principal, Superintendent Mike Kelley successfully lobbied the school board to change the rules retroactively to allow male faculty to spank teenage girls.

It's good billboard and a worthy project. However, I still think having Satan on the billboard is going to alienate a sizeable segment of the public instantly. Yes, it will spread news of the billboard and awareness of the program by word of mouth. But the religious folks will be opposed no mater what you're doing. To make this program effective the support of the public is vital, unless you've got a shitload of money for legal action. Even then, if the kids parents refuse it's hard to represent the kid in court. You're left with cases on principles which don't have the weight or impact of a beat up kid.

I believe what they're doing is trying to get each school district in court to say that it's more important for the state to hit the kid than it is for the state to respect their religious freedom.

That is going to be a very difficult case to make.

Of course there will be people who are scandalized by the labels used for this religious argument. Indeed there are religious traditions where corporal punishment is an accepted part of the program. Being whacked by a nun in catholic school is practically a cliche'. Certainly, no student in a catholic school will register as a satanist to be able to claim a religious defense. I grant you that.

But there are lots of public schools where corporal punishment and the like are part of the accepted system. I believe there are plenty of opportunities for people, families, students, who would be willing to say this to prevent that.

The religious freedom ... (unladylike words here) persons are going to be hoist on their own petard. It will not take many "satanists" to get a case to court to make a lot of news. And as for the cost, I believe the ACLU would take such a case, be *happy* to take such a case.

Did you read at the link the anecdote about the male vice principal spanking female students against the school district's existing rules? And that rather than subject the vp to negative consequences, the school district went all in in the opposite direction, making it explicitly legal for opposite sex spanking. Creep factor is +1, but that's small potatoes compared to the uselessness of the tactic. Like you're gonna paddle a kid into "getting it" or "seeing things your way". Good fucking luck, paddler, you are gonna need it. There probably is a small segment of the population that such a strategy would prove successful. But that implies a much larger segment in which the paddler would simply harden the attitudes of the student.

I haven't been a school administrator, but I've been a parent, and the adult in the room... and I can tell you that "too big to spank" comes really young. It's just so easy to get it wrong, a thousand times more likely go badly. Something that is so unlikely to succeed should not be policy.

Tha's kinda fucked up.

Yeah, they changed to rules retroactively to protect the principal. But it is legal in 19 states for public schools. They go by the creed, whack a couple of them up side the head, the rest will get in line right quick. Trumps SCOTUS will probably go along with that.

I want to know if the principal spanked the two girls on their panties or pull them down?