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   xoxoxoBruce  Friday Dec 24 12:24 AM

Dec 24, 2010: Coyote on Ice

Ladies and Gentlemen... and children of all ages... here for your eating pleasure...
direct from a chilling performance on Lake Michigan...

HOLLY COYOTE!!


Quote:
Rescue workers were called at around 9.30am when passers by spotted the coyote on a block of ice.
Helicopter camera crews recorded the event. At one point, the coyote jumped off the ice and tried to
swim to shore in the zero-degree Celsius water. The animal then climbed on a another ice flow, said
Larry Langford, fire department spokesman, before being pulled to safety.


Why Holly? That's the name the rescuers gave it.
No word if the coyote approved.

link


SPUCK  Friday Dec 24 05:42 AM

Damn, those are tough suckers!



He must've missed the ferry.


--------------------------------------------------------
Trying to sneak across the border.



Trilby  Friday Dec 24 09:13 AM

I kept chanting, "Please don't be a dead coyote, please don't be a dead coyote..." and I got my wish.

maybe today will be better than I think.

*fervent wish*



Griff  Friday Dec 24 09:33 AM

It could have been very sad, but now he's in prison.



monster  Friday Dec 24 11:33 AM

Looks like that coyote needs warming up a little. maybe a slow roast at 350....



Shawnee123  Friday Dec 24 11:40 AM

I would cuddle her sweet little face right off. Poor baby girl. Holly Holy, indeed.



xoxoxoBruce  Friday Dec 24 11:57 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brianna View Post
I kept chanting, "Please don't be a dead coyote, please don't be a dead coyote..." and I got my wish.

maybe today will be better than I think.

*fervent wish*
Would I do that to you...


TheMercenary  Friday Dec 24 12:43 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by SPUCK View Post
He must've missed the ferry.



Gravdigr  Friday Dec 24 01:56 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawnee123 View Post
I would cuddle her sweet little face right off.
She would do the same to you.

And by "cuddle", I mean gnaw.


wolf  Friday Dec 24 02:21 PM

Interesting. Usually he just slams into the rock wall where he'd painted a tunnel only moments ago.



Lamplighter  Friday Dec 24 02:49 PM




Warren Peas  Saturday Dec 25 09:44 PM

Sorry kiddies. I've no love for vermin coyote. They're opportunist killers. Many a family have lost a much loved cat or pooch to these critters. They're survivors, don't need our help other than to let our pets out at night for their dining pleasure.



Diaphone Jim  Sunday Dec 26 12:49 PM

Mr. Peas: In which millennium B.C. did you move to your neighborhood to predate the arrival of these "vermin coyote(s)?"
A guy moved in across the lane a few years back and thought it was wonderful to achieve a long standing dream of living in the country and keeping his own chickens. He built perches on his front porch and was angered to find the local raccoons liked them, too.
He wanted to borrow a gun or two to deal with them. I offered to help him build a coop, instead.



Lamplighter  Sunday Dec 26 01:13 PM

We too have coyotes in our neighborhood, and raccoons.

And I too find myself worried about a confrontation between our dog and the "wild critters".
Of course they can all carry rabies, and I don't advocate trying to pet them.
I'm even bothered by a currently running commercial showing a woman calling a raccoon
into her bedroom (for some stupid reason) to sell some product.

But I'm quite willing to believe that the diet of coyotes,
either in the true wilds or in our more civilized neighborhoods,
is much more composed of rodents and other wild critters
than of pet cats, puppies, or young children.



Adak  Sunday Dec 26 02:10 PM

If they're around city folk, they very quickly learn to expect "hand outs", from owners who leave their pets outside.

Whether inside a fenced yard (6 ft fence is nothing for them to jump over), on the front porch or rear patio, doesn't matter. The SPCA doesn't get many calls to pick up stray cats or dogs - coyotes get them first.

It makes sense from a predators POV of course. A plump pug inside a 5 ft. high fence is so much easier to catch, than a jackrabbit in the wild. The culverts and flash flood control canals make excellent "highways" for them to travel along at night, avoid cars, and quickly sweep into a suburb.

I applaud the rescue to stop this suffering, but since the coyotes have killed so many pets, and even a few people, I'd have no problem if they stopped "Holly's" suffering more permanently.



Gravdigr  Monday Dec 27 05:37 AM

Saw two coyotes running through a snowy field on my way home from Baby's house. They appeared to be quite healthy, if I had to guess, I'd say they were right around 75-80 lbs. They cleared a woven wire fence and didn't miss a step. I stopped in the road and watched them til they were out of site.

It was a beautiful scene.



SPUCK  Monday Dec 27 07:06 AM

Here's a shot I took of some doggies.. They wanted to visit Mr. Beaver but he wasn't having any of it.

I thought they were actually wolves. But that one on the mound looks sort of coyotish.




Gravdigr  Tuesday Dec 28 06:26 PM

Definitely 'yotes. Songdogs, some calls 'em.



xoxoxoBruce  Wednesday Dec 29 09:07 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gravdigr View Post
Saw two coyotes running through a snowy field on my way home from Baby's house. They appeared to be quite healthy, if I had to guess, I'd say they were right around 75-80 lbs.
Holy shit, that's huge for your neck of the woods. PA coyotes came across the heartland and run about 50 lbs. Further north, they came across Canada and interbred with wolves, so they run up to 75 lbs.

Coyotes have been displacing Red Foxes around here, since they like the same habitat. The Coyotes are bigger/tougher, plus the Red Foxes have been decimated by rabies.


Griff  Wednesday Dec 29 11:26 AM

Here is an article on last year's Trapper's Association hunt in NEPA-

http://thedailyreview.com/sports/coy...rvest-1.603760

The biggest taken that weekend was 47.25 pounds.



Sundae  Wednesday Dec 29 12:59 PM

I've often read stories of foxes running off with full-grown cats.
I challenged a woman who posted one-such (very politely) and she responded with major vitriol. The fox was apparently the size of a Labrador, they were common in her part of the country and obviously a townie like me had never seen a fox before.

I backed off after that. Despite thinking she protested too much.

Quote:
Length: The Red fox is the largest fox in the Vulpes genus. Globally, 45 – 90cm (1.5ft – 3ft) head & body length; foxes can reach 1.5m (5ft) TL (including tail). In the UK, adult male foxes typically range between 67cm and 72cm (26 - 28in.), while females fall between 62cm to 68cm. The tail, or brush, makes up roughly one-third of the total body length; the longest record for a brush I have come across is 55.5cm (almost 2ft!).
The adult fox weight is from 6 to 15 pounds (2.7-6.8 kg)
Quote:
Labrador: Size Category Medium
Weight Height Range
Bitches measure 54 to 56cms at the withers, dogs between 56 to 57cms.
Bitches weigh around 28kgs and dogs around 30kgs. Back Length (from base of neck to base of tail) 61-64cm
Not saying Grav is deluded, just that I am aware of people's perspectives being skewed, perhaps by distance.


Carruthers  Wednesday Dec 29 02:16 PM

Well this one one didn't run off with a cat, Sundae.
However I did see it make a rapid exit from under a bush in the back garden hotly pursued by next door's moggie!




Big Sarge  Wednesday Dec 29 05:48 PM

They should have shot it rather than wasting money/resources on a coyote.



skysidhe  Wednesday Dec 29 06:01 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce View Post
Holy shit, that's huge for your neck of the woods. PA coyotes came across the heartland and run about 50 lbs. Further north, they came across Canada and interbred with wolves, so they run up to 75 lbs.

Coyotes have been displacing Red Foxes around here, since they like the same habitat. The Coyotes are bigger/tougher, plus the Red Foxes have been decimated by rabies.
I learned something new. I didn't know that was happening. I didn't know it could! holey moley


Quote:
Originally Posted by SPUCK View Post
Here's a shot I took of some doggies.. They wanted to visit Mr. Beaver but he wasn't having any of it.

I thought they were actually wolves. But that one on the mound looks sort of coyotish.
Interesting bit of evolution. Thanks for posting that picture.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32976657...ience-science/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coywolf


xoxoxoBruce  Wednesday Dec 29 06:27 PM

Hey those northern New England/Canadian nights are cold... and dark... and lonely.

Coyotes and foxes are like long haired cats, their size and weight are tough to judge, especially at a distance. They're not as big boned and muscular as dogs and wolves.



SPUCK  Thursday Dec 30 06:39 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by skysidhe View Post
I learned something new. I didn't know that was happening. I didn't know it could! holey moley




Interesting bit of evolution. Thanks for posting that picture.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32976657...ience-science/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coywolf
Interesting links there..

I suspect that wolf males only ever mate with female coyotes. In cases where a wolf runs into a coyote the wolf would normally attack the competition. But, if it's a female in heat, hostilities are suspended.


Gravdigr  Friday Dec 31 01:00 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sundae Girl View Post
Not saying Grav is deluded, just that I am aware of people's perspectives being skewed, perhaps by distance.
I'm deluded by the FACT that we have some goddamned big coyotes in my neck of the woods. I know what coyotes look like. I know what little spindly, malnourished coyotes look like. I know what big, husky, well-fed coyotes look like.

We don't got no skinny coyotes.

We got Double Coyote, though.


Sundae  Friday Dec 31 03:24 PM

Fair enough - I was deliberately not saying you were wrong.
I have no idea what is right in your part of the world.



Lamplighter  Friday Dec 31 04:37 PM

Do you live near Jefferson City, Missouri ?

This link includes small pic of the dead coyote shot by a hunter in Nov 2010

Missouri Dept of Conservation
Published on: Dec. 13, 2010
Posted by Jim Low

Quote:
JEFFERSON CITY Mo – DNA tests show that a 104-pound canine shot by a hunter
in Carroll County Nov. 13 was an unusually large coyote.



wolf  Friday Dec 31 04:43 PM

Great. Now we have to worry about giant mutant coyotes taking over.



xoxoxoBruce  Friday Dec 31 04:51 PM

No worry, they don't take a silver bullet.



HungLikeJesus  Sunday Jan 2 01:07 PM

This line made a lot of things clear to me:

Quote:
It had no tattoos, microchip or evidence of ear tags that would indicate it might have escaped or been released from captivity.



Gravdigr  Sunday Jan 2 11:51 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lamplighter View Post
Do you live near Jefferson City, Missouri ?

This link includes small pic of the dead coyote shot by a hunter in Nov 2010...
A small pic of a LARGE coyote...


xoxoxoBruce  Tuesday Jan 4 10:06 PM

Quote:
A fox, believed to be the biggest ever found in Britain, has been caught and killed after it apparently ate a family's pet cat. The giant creature was twice the normal size of its species and weighed 26.5lb - or nearly two stone. It was 4ft long - the same length as an average seven-year-old child and about the size of a coyote, dingo or Iberian lynx.
Pictures and video.


TheMercenary  Tuesday Jan 4 10:52 PM

For a while, and I don't know if they still do it, but the farmers around here pay hunters a bounty for every coyote killed on their property. All you have to do is turn in the tail.



xoxoxoBruce  Wednesday Jan 5 12:43 AM

I knew it was common for politicians, but not so much for farmers.



Paying for tail, that is.



Sundae  Wednesday Jan 5 03:51 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce View Post
WOW. So the stroppy woman I dealt with really might have seen a fox that large. I'd apologise to her in my head if I didn't think she was still wrong...

Although typical of Sky to take a freakishly large fox and the only reported fox attack together to suggest that foxes are on an evolutionary path to displace mankind


xoxoxoBruce  Thursday Jan 6 02:31 AM

But it still only weighed 26 lbs, I've seen a house cat that heavy.



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