xoxoxoBruce Tuesday Sep 7 03:07 AM
Sept 7, 2010: 119.1 Miles Per Gallon.
Most of the records I see set, that claim a bazillion miles per gallon, are carefully controlled closed course attempts. Craig Henderson drove a car he designed 25 years ago, from Washington state 1,478 miles to the Mexican border... you know, real world.
Of course he was driving from WA down to Mexico, he probably wouldn't do as well driving from Mexico up to WA.
Adak Tuesday Sep 7 04:51 AM
Looks like he's got the right idea though - always driving downhill like that.
SPUCK Tuesday Sep 7 06:41 AM
lupin..the..3rd Tuesday Sep 7 08:40 AM
I <3 small diesels. Used to have a VW Passat with the 1.9 TDI engine back when I was driving 25k miles per year as a consultant. 4 doors, tons of leg room, huge trunk, and 45+ miles per gallon.
classicman Tuesday Sep 7 09:29 AM
xoxoxoBruce Tuesday Sep 7 09:46 AM
ULSF (ultra low sulfur fuel) wasn't available in the US until 2007, and not completely fazed in until 2010. There was something like a 2 or 3 year gap between when the emission standards went into effect, and the availability of ULSF.
newtimer Tuesday Sep 7 09:49 AM
One time I had to make a delivery across California and my 18 -wheeler got 54 mpg on that trip. My cargo was a whole bunch of helium balloons in the trailer.
Lamplighter Tuesday Sep 7 10:10 AM
Those gull wings and a tail wind must have helped a lot, but I don't think I'd like riding all that way with the doors open like that... too noisy !
ToastyOhs Tuesday Sep 7 12:34 PM
He could race against this dude - http://www.aerocivic.com/
Adak Tuesday Sep 7 11:45 PM
GM first tried to make one using a 327 (gas) engine block - pressures are much higher in a diesel and they broke the blocks, and were a total failure. Then they made a replacement that actually worked, but it had inadequate power. Another failure.
Ford took an engine from Navistar, (International) cheapened it with unreliable sensors and manufacturing specs, and the trucks were a dismal failure.
this from Wikipedia re:Ford Powerstroke diesel, 2003-2006
GM finally went to Isuzu (who practically own the commercial small diesel market for delivery trucks), and they put together a very fine small diesel. With the Allison tranny (yes, the Allison that makes the Abrams Tank tranny), it's a solid tower. This is what I have.
All the newer diesels are much quieter than they ever used to be.
Although this looks like a great alternative to gasoline engines, the latest well with flammable tap "water" out in West Virginia, may be MUCH cheaper than either gasoline or diesel.
Such a deal!
xoxoxoBruce Wednesday Sep 8 01:27 AM
It's not that they didn't know how, they did. It was the dreaded MBA (theme from Jaws) beancounters that fucked it up.
SPUCK Wednesday Sep 8 06:43 AM
Had a 350 diesel Olds.
One day, with six people dressed in our Sunday bests, we were in it pulling the grade of the local blood alley hill when the engine let go.
1) A rod broke.
2) It flailed around and cut the oil pan in half.
3) Instantly all the oil blew out on the freeway.
4) The rod cut an inch wide slot thru the block.
5) This caused all the pressurized coolant to spew onto the freeway also.
6) The rod stove in the starter body ruining it.
7) The rod finally hit the block just right which instantly stopped the rotating crankshaft.
8) This caused the camshaft to shear in half.
9) The the front half of the camshaft came out the front of the block.
10) It passed half way thru the water pump utterly destroying it while,
11) Destroying the timing gear and chain.
12) The sudden stopping of the crank completely gutted the automatic transmission causing it to lock up solid.
13) This caused the rear wheels to lock up and the car skidded, laying down about 70 feet of skid marks.
14) This also tore 3 teeth of the third member ring gear.
The CHP showed up with a push bumper and tried to push the beast out of the fast lane. No dice - it couldn't move.
Essentially the only thing that survived was the radiator, the alternator, and the battery.
The only bright side was we dropped in a pumped up 350 gas motor and avoided the smog hassles since the car was registered as a diesel.
lupin..the..3rd Wednesday Sep 8 08:29 AM
And even Ford has some great 4-cyl turbo diesel engines that they sell in europe, in several different models of cars and delivery trucks. They've been selling diesels in that market for many years as well.
It has nothing to do with them not being capable of producing a good diesel engine, and it has nothing to do with emissions standards. It's good old fashioned corporate marketing BS - they chose not to sell those engines here in the US, because they didn't feel that it would appeal to American consumers tastes. A poor marketing decision, just like the many poor Big3 marketing decisions before and since.
Unfortunately, the Big3 all believe that American consumers want a bland mundane sedan that is not exceptional in any way, has a very soft mushy suspension, and has a gasoline V6 with automatic transmission.
xoxoxoBruce Wednesday Sep 8 02:03 PM
Because they were so few in numbers, they were exempt from emission regulations.