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   xoxoxoBruce  Friday Aug 20 12:35 AM

Aug 20, 2010: Kiwi

A Kiwi, yes, but not just a Kiwi... a Kiwi on a muthafuckin treadmill.



Quote:
Stubborn, grumpy Piwi
Wildlife vet Dr Lisa Argilla said Piwi didn't take to the treadmill naturally, and would be grumpy when woken for his workout three times a week.
"He was particularly stubborn in true kiwi form, and just sat there [as if saying] I'm not going to do this.
"He'd bite carer's hands when he got fed up with walking. But he's quite a tolerant little guy," she said.
Piwi endured 10 minutes on the treadmill every few days to strengthen his legs, as well as having physiotherapy with regular massage.
link


ZenGum  Friday Aug 20 04:00 AM

Only a New Zealander would test the plane-on-a-treadmill question using a flightless bird.



Sundae  Friday Aug 20 05:22 AM

I've never seen a Kiwi close up before (the bird, not someone from NZ).
I didn't expect all the cute little whiskers!

The personality sounds pretty much like my ex-colleague though.



SPUCK  Friday Aug 20 06:22 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenGum View Post
Only a New Zealander would test the plane-on-a-treadmill question using a flightless bird.



ZenGum  Friday Aug 20 06:30 AM

Attachment 29175



Griff  Friday Aug 20 06:43 AM

No propeller, no fly.



xoxoxoBruce  Friday Aug 20 06:45 AM

Of course there's no fly, Kiwis don't wear pants, silly.



spudcon  Friday Aug 20 07:15 AM

The only Kiwi I ever knew wore pants, but she didn't have a fly either.



Trilby  Friday Aug 20 07:20 AM

That kiwi looks sorta curmudgeonly.

the Curmungeonly Kiwi would be a good name for a children's book.



DanaC  Friday Aug 20 08:14 AM

I love kiwis! My Nan went to NZ when i was little and she brought me back a bunch of kiwi related gifts; including a little silver kiwi pendant. I loved the shape of them. So cute!

She also had loads of photos of wildlife, including kiwis. Too cute for words.



Shawnee123  Friday Aug 20 08:20 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brianna View Post
That kiwi looks sorta curmudgeonly.

the Curmungeonly Kiwi would be a good name for a children's book.
Great title!


Sundae  Friday Aug 20 08:29 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brianna View Post
That kiwi looks sorta curmudgeonly.

the Curmungeonly Kiwi would be a good name for a children's book.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawnee123 View Post
Great title!
Especially as it applies to many of the people too!
Not the Finn brothers of course. Or Margaret Mahy. Or my Aunt.
But most of the others

See how they avoid the Cellar?
Typical.


Shawnee123  Friday Aug 20 08:39 AM

The reason for his curmudgeonly attitude is that he is sick of being compared to fuzzy fruit and fuzzier humans.



Cloud  Friday Aug 20 10:01 AM

why did he have to strengthen his legs? couldn't they just let him, I dunno . . . walk around?



classicman  Friday Aug 20 10:30 AM

I wonder if those whiskers serve the same purpose as a cat's?



xoxoxoBruce  Friday Aug 20 10:33 AM

[i]f you click on the link you'll read his long sad story of a broken leg that had to be rebroken, his release, another broken leg and transfusion.



Cloud  Friday Aug 20 10:47 AM

so sad . . . so lazy



Cloud  Friday Aug 20 10:49 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by classicman View Post
I wonder if those whiskers serve the same purpose as a cat's?
Quote:
More like a mammal than a bird .....

The kiwi is one of the world's oddest endangered birds. In fact, one may ask whether it really is a bird.

It is the closest thing to a mammal in the bird world. The kiwi's blood temperature is nearly the same as a mammal, about 2įC lower than other birds. And it has bone marrow, instead of air as in the bones of a bird.

Both ovaries are functional in a kiwi, it has large ear openings, long whiskers, and plumage more like hair than feathers - all physical characteristics of most mammals. Birds have two ovaries but only one that functions, small concealed ears, and no whiskers. With strong stout legs and claws that are 30 percent of its' body weight, the kiwi is a powerful runner, fighter and swimmer.

The kiwi is the only bird in the world with nostrils at the end of its bill. Birds typically do not have a good sense of smell, but the kiwi's is very well developed. The olfactory bulb in the brain which controls smelling senses, is larger in kiwi than in other birds, and is structured more closely to that of a mammal.
http://terranature.org/kiwi1.htm


Pete Zicato  Friday Aug 20 11:47 AM

Looks pretty small. We're going to need a couple more to make that kiwi pie.



Griff  Friday Aug 20 01:19 PM

That's why they're endangered.



xoxoxoBruce  Friday Aug 20 01:46 PM

Quote:
More like a mammal than a bird
When it made the leap from dinosaur to bird, it bounced part way to mammal before it could stop.


Pete Zicato  Friday Aug 20 02:06 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Griff View Post
That's why they're endangered.
Well if we'd stop breaking their legs...


monster  Friday Aug 20 02:37 PM

Coming next week to an IOTD near you: Kangaroo on a trampoline



Diaphone Jim  Friday Aug 20 06:56 PM

Of course they are endangered. They have been hunted down for decades for their shoe shine glands.



Adak  Friday Aug 20 09:30 PM

I'm surprised the species isn't extinct:

*Can't burrow a protective underground home

*Can't outrun much of anything that wants to eat it.
(Cellar members excluded)

*Can't fly.

*Can't swim fast, if at all.

*Can't climb trees to get away from predators.

*Nice claws, but most predators can still clean it's clock.

Flightless birds are a risky proposition. Emu, and Ostrich are the only ones I know of that live on land, and have been successful. (Roadrunners can fly a bit - and do nest above ground)



monster  Friday Aug 20 11:18 PM

Mebbe it should be reclassified as a wombless mammal?



TheDaVinciChode  Friday Aug 20 11:32 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adak View Post
I'm surprised the species isn't extinct:

*Can't burrow a protective underground home

*Can't outrun much of anything that wants to eat it.
(Cellar members excluded)

*Can't fly.

*Can't swim fast, if at all.

*Can't climb trees to get away from predators.

*Nice claws, but most predators can still clean it's clock.

Flightless birds are a risky proposition. Emu, and Ostrich are the only ones I know of that live on land, and have been successful. (Roadrunners can fly a bit - and do nest above ground)
They can burrow, actually - some species make rather intricate, labyrinth-style burrows, whilst others will make single-entrance burrows... It varies amongst species, but, they are all rather successful burrowers.

They are very strong swimmers, capable of traversing even rather heavy-flowing rivers.

They're very fast, especially for their size - able to fiercely defend a territory 62 acres or more in size, every night.*

* Being as small as they are, and yet, able to maintain such a large territory, is evidence of great tenacity, as well as relative-to-size great speed. I forget how fast they can actually move, but, lacking other defences, the Kiwi uses its SPEED to evade predators... surviving millions of years, prior to the introducing of non-native predators to their habitat, thanks to their speed.

Many animals can't fly. Doesn't stop them living very successful, long lives. (Kiwi live, on average, between 20 - 30 years, and as stated, have existed for millennia, without any threat of extinction, prior to man, anyway.)

Also - They have an incredible sense of smell, to help them know when predators are around, as well as to locate food sources; they can even locate insects, beneath the ground, using nothing but their sense of smell.

Oh, and don't believe what you hear, about them being stupid, or half-blind, either. They have good eye-sight, and are very fast learners.

(Once more - I apologise for not being around... damn surface dwellers keepin' me down... or up, I suppose.)


ZenGum  Friday Aug 20 11:39 PM

Until humans turned up, there were no mammals (except a few bats) in New Zealand. No rats, cats, foxes, dogs, human hunters etc etc. There were many ground-dwelling birds that are now in great danger.

As well as the Giant Moa, there seems to have been some kind of enormous Eagle - wing-span 3-4 metres (10-13 feet). Maori legends told of great birds that could carry off human children, and while these were usually dismissed, recent fossil finds suggest such a bird existed.

Kiwis fight other kiwis, too. Put two male kiwis in a box and in a few hours you'll have a dead kiwi.



HungLikeJesus  Saturday Aug 21 12:34 AM

What happened to the other Kiwi?

I must know.



ZenGum  Saturday Aug 21 03:51 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce View Post
[i]f you click on the link you'll read his long sad story of a broken leg that had to be rebroken, his release, another broken leg and transfusion.
I may seem heavy-handed, but when I lend money I expect to get it back, okay?

Quote:
Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus View Post
What happened to the other Kiwi?

I must know.
He works for me.


DanaC  Saturday Aug 21 08:06 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by monster View Post
Coming next week to an IOTD near you: Kangaroo on a trampoline
Lulz.


Adak  Saturday Aug 21 09:41 PM

A roadrunner top speed is about 18 mph. (I have chased many of them on foot, in my youth). When pressed by a predator, they can fly, as well.

Kiwi tops at an estimated 13 mph, and can't fly at all.

They defend against other Kiwi birds - not bobcats, foxes, dingos, coyotes, lynxes, ocelots, wolves, eagles, etc., who would easily take them.

If they were as prolific, and could fly just enough to get high enough to escape ground predators pursuing them, like a chicken can, I'd say "they'll do fine".

That is not the case, however. It will be a big struggle for them to stay alive, in the wild as new predators move into their habitat. imo



Gravdigr  Sunday Aug 22 01:32 AM

If it's gonna be a mammal, don't it have to have tits?



Gravdigr  Sunday Aug 22 01:35 AM

BTW, are New Zealanders offended by being called Kiwis? Or are they cool widdit?



SPUCK  Sunday Aug 22 06:26 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gravdigr View Post
BTW, are New Zealanders offended by being called Kiwis? Or are they cool widdit?
It's a fine moniker. I think they rather like it.

Like calling Americans - Yanks.


Sundae  Sunday Aug 22 07:22 AM

New Zealanders I've known have called themselves Kiwis.
Note - if you are unsure of whether someone is Australian or Kiwi, get them to say "Ten pens". A Kiwi will say "Tin pins".

Of course many Merkins can't tell the difference between English, South African and Antipodean, so this might be a moot point



Pico and ME  Sunday Aug 22 11:03 AM

When I was a teen working at my hometown bakery, one of my cow orkers was a New Zealander who said 'ducky' a lot. Is that particular to the county or just an all around British term?



Sundae  Sunday Aug 22 12:14 PM

In Leicester, the favourite term of endearment was "me duck". As in, "Y'all right there me duck?" It was only really used by auld wifies, but had apparently been widespread before strange colours and shapes came in via the television.

Ducky? As far as my experience goes it's just an old-fashioned (out-dated) way of calling someone homosexual.



Lamplighter  Sunday Aug 22 12:41 PM

Duckies seem to be serious subjects in some places...

WallStreetJournal
The Sober Science of Migrating Rubber Duckies



Pico and ME  Sunday Aug 22 12:49 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sundae Girl View Post
In Leicester, the favourite term of endearment was "me duck". As in, "Y'all right there me duck?" It was only really used by auld wifies, but had apparently been widespread before strange colours and shapes came in via the television.

Ducky? As far as my experience goes it's just an old-fashioned (out-dated) way of calling someone homosexual.
LOL...she called all of us duckies.


richlevy  Sunday Aug 22 01:02 PM

Quote:
having physiotherapy with regular massage
Did the massage by any chance include this?


Rhianne  Sunday Aug 22 02:25 PM

Penguins may feel neglected by this thread and Adak in particular.



xoxoxoBruce  Sunday Aug 22 05:02 PM

Well hell, we can cook them too.



casimendocina  Monday Aug 23 08:46 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sundae Girl View Post
New Zealanders I've known have called themselves Kiwis.
Note - if you are unsure of whether someone is Australian or Kiwi, get them to say "Ten pens". A Kiwi will say "Tin pins".

Of course many Merkins can't tell the difference between English, South African and Antipodean, so this might be a moot point
For more on the difference and rivalry between Australians and New Zealanders, check out Flight of the Concords. There's lots of other examples, but this is the one I like best.



Having said that, in Japan, it was the New Zealanders who the Australians graviated towards when they didn't feel like dealing with anyone exotic. It was like talking to someone from home except you could make sheep jokes at their expense.


casimendocina  Monday Aug 23 08:48 AM

I was pretty sure I posted the YouTube link in, but I can't see it, so here it is again just in case (one day I'll get the hang of actually getting the photo or the clip to show up in the post).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buoztHLk9JQ



classicman  Monday Aug 23 09:00 AM

casi - just post the part after the =




Sundae  Monday Aug 23 09:45 AM

Casi - Jim Robinson as the Ambassador!
Excellent.



classicman  Monday Aug 23 10:10 AM

thanks xob.



ZenGum  Monday Aug 23 10:15 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pico and ME View Post
When I was a teen working at my hometown bakery, one of my cow orkers was a New Zealander who said 'ducky' a lot. Is that particular to the county or just an all around British term?
The main way to tell the New Zealand accent is by the short i sound, like in six, bit, etc. which comes out sounding like a short u like in sucks, but and so on.

If it sounded like ducky he was calling you dicky.


casimendocina  Tuesday Aug 24 04:40 AM

SG, Jim Robinson was a long-time Neighbours cast member wasn't he?



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