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   xoxoxoBruce  Friday May 7 12:37 AM

May 7, 2010: Whisperer

We had the Horse Whisperer, Ghost Whisperer, and that really cool Dog Whisperer on the National Geographic channel.
There's also Pet, Wood, Lion, Book, Car, and Bear Whisperers.

Well, here is the Bunny Whisperer.



Quote:
A few words from Cliff Penrose, and even the most badly-behaved bunny is like putty in his hands. For he is Britain's only rabbit whisperer, a master of the little-known art of hopnosis. His technique is guaranteed to place the patient in a trance, lying flat on its back with its paws in the air for up to ten minutes at a time.
Mr Penrose, a 60-year-old grandfather, uses his skills to prepare sick rabbits for surgery or simply to calm those showing signs of stress. This has placed him in great demand among his local vets in St Austell, Cornwall. After making a high-pitched squeak to get the rabbit's attention, Mr Penrose strokes it and applies a little pressure to the body, giving a gentle massage. Having relaxed it in this way, he 'bows' to the animal by lowering his head so it does not feel threatened. He then closes its eyelids, leaving it perfectly still and in a trance-like state.
I wonder if he could make your significant other, shut up and hold still?
10 minutes would be way more than enough time.

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rditlkustoleit  Friday May 7 01:24 AM

So if we make the assumption that the good doctor is well versed in tonic immobilization techniques,
where do you think he "massages" Peter Cottontail to get this response?

I'm sure poking his fingers down the rabbit's hole would do the trick.



Cloud  Friday May 7 01:30 AM

lafs @ "hopnosis"



Trilby  Friday May 7 04:36 AM

Awwwww....da bunny is in da state of bliss!



ZenGum  Friday May 7 05:05 AM

All ready for spit-roasting.



Sheldonrs  Friday May 7 06:25 AM

Hugh Heffner has been doing this for decades. How else could an 85 year old man get a 20 year old bunny in bed?



xoxoxoBruce  Friday May 7 06:59 AM

Money.



ZenGum  Friday May 7 07:58 AM




Shawnee123  Friday May 7 08:09 AM

...



DanaC  Friday May 7 08:22 AM

Lying a rabbit on its back makes it freeze and go into a trance. It can be quite dangerous to their health, and is done as a last resort by, for instance, vets and handlers to keep the rabbit still whilst examining them or whatever.

This is total bullshit.



Trilby  Friday May 7 08:45 AM

re: Shaw: How many times do we have to tell you?

It's NOT lupus!



Trilby  Friday May 7 08:46 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by DanaC View Post
Lying a rabbit on its back makes it freeze and go into a trance. It can be quite dangerous to their health, and is done as a last resort by, for instance, vets and handlers to keep the rabbit still whilst examining them or whatever.

This is total bullshit.
I did not know this. Now I'm vaklempt.


glatt  Friday May 7 08:56 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by DanaC View Post
Lying a rabbit on its back makes it freeze and go into a trance. It can be quite dangerous to their health, and is done as a last resort by, for instance, vets and handlers to keep the rabbit still whilst examining them or whatever.

This is total bullshit.
I forget where I was, but I went to someone's house where they showed us this trick with their pet bunny. I've seen it.


DanaC  Friday May 7 09:02 AM

The article says he is in demand amongst local vets. Maybe he is able to do it in such a way that it is less stressful than otherwise. It isn't hypnotism though.



xoxoxoBruce  Friday May 7 09:10 AM

Of course it isn't, it's hopnosis.



ZenGum  Friday May 7 09:56 AM

You can do much the same thing with chooks.



rditlkustoleit  Friday May 7 10:33 AM

Most animals have this Tonic Immobilization (playing dead) response when they feel threatened.

There was even an observed case of this around 1998 where a killer whale induced tonic immobilization
in a great white shark by quickly inverting the shark where it was held still for 15 min.

I believe the shark died of asphyxiation.



Spexxvet  Friday May 7 10:54 AM

I'm gonna put some cool patches on my shirt, like he has.



spudcon  Friday May 7 11:31 AM

If only the Secret Service had known about this, they could have saved Jimmy Carter from a traumatic experience.



Sheldonrs  Friday May 7 12:33 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenGum View Post
You can do much the same thing with cocks.
I know. But making THOSE go limp is more fun!


dmg1969  Friday May 7 12:46 PM

Pffft. I can do the same thing with our Yorkie when I rub her belly. Where's my white coat?



Gravdigr  Friday May 7 02:31 PM

Shh. Be vewy, vewy quiet. I'm hopnotizing wabbits.



Gravdigr  Friday May 7 02:32 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by rditlkustoleit View Post
Most animals have this Tonic Immobilization (playing dead) response when they feel threatened.

There was even an observed case of this around 1998 where a killer whale induced tonic immobilization
in a great white shark by quickly inverting the shark where it was held still for 15 min.

I believe the shark died of asphyxiation.
Shoulda put it on a treadmill.


Gravdigr  Friday May 7 02:34 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brianna View Post
re: Shaw: How many times do we have to tell you?

It's NOT lupus!



jinx  Friday May 7 02:37 PM

Contrast is bumped way up on that photo...



Diaphone Jim  Friday May 7 04:10 PM

I believe that's called the marinating position.



squirell nutkin  Friday May 7 04:53 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by jinx View Post
Contrast is bumped way up on that photo...
And the colors desaturated about 20% too.


DanaC  Friday May 7 04:55 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gravdigr View Post
Shh. Be vewy, vewy quiet. I'm hopnotizing wabbits.
I lawled.


Hillrick  Friday May 7 05:08 PM

Ok, what you're all missing here is that this guy is in great demand. That means that in ONE town in England there are a lot of folks who will pay to have surgery performed on their rabbit!



squirell nutkin  Friday May 7 07:52 PM

We weren't missing it, we were hoping to pretend it wasn't happening.

lalalalalalalallalalalalalalalalal
I'mNotListeningI'mNotListeningI'mNotListeningI'mNotListeningI'mNotListeningI'mNotListening



xoxoxoBruce  Friday May 7 09:51 PM

But but but, a freaked out rabbit that size, can/will fuck you up. This guy has a hotline, and works for free, so why wouldn't a Vet use him to knock a bunny down, so they can get a needle in it?



SPUCK  Saturday May 8 06:43 AM

Around here if you stepped back to take that picture of the petrified rabbit, a hawk would snatch it.



squirell nutkin  Saturday May 8 05:23 PM

Link to Monty Python and the Holy Grail Rabbit scene on youtube



jinx  Saturday May 8 06:04 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce View Post
But but but, a freaked out rabbit that size, can/will fuck you up.
Can't fuck up a 3oz stoat though. Bad-ass little mf'ers...




richlevy  Saturday May 8 06:17 PM

Y'know I had heard the word stoat before but never knew what animal referred to.

Those guys looked like weasels.

According to the dictionary, stoat = ermine = weasel.

Now maybe that's an oversimplification of the dictionary and ermine/stoat is a member of the weasel family.

Or it could be a British thing like lorry/truck and torch/flashlight.

Still I heave heard of ermine in terms of furs that royalty used to wear (maybe still do). I guess "Her majesty was resplendent in her weasel robe" probably sounds a lot better with 'ermine'.



lumberjim  Saturday May 8 06:36 PM

tha'ss no ordinary stoat.


Look a' tha boooones!



monster  Saturday May 8 08:35 PM

I think Ermine is the winter coat of the stoat -white fur ...or something like that. Much rarer because the bastards hide more in the winter.



squirell nutkin  Saturday May 8 10:42 PM

I actually witnessed a stoat chasing a rabbit in the Adirondacks once. The stoat and rabbit passed by me three times, they were several feet apart. They went back and forth each time the stoat was closer to the rabbit.

At the last pass, the stoat was about 25 feet from me and noticed me sitting there. He stopped and turned and came toward me! (Probably thinking he'd hit paydirt) When he was about 8 feet away I pointed my finger at him and in my most authoritative voice I shouted "Knock it off!" He stopped and resumed chasing the rabbit.

One of my most weird animal encounters.



jinx  Saturday May 8 10:49 PM

A few years ago we took a friend of ours from this area, knee deep in deer, rabbits, squirrels, etc... up to the adirondaks. He described it as "a fucking petting zoo" because of the animal encounters. A chipmunk nibbled his toe...



lumberjim  Saturday May 8 10:55 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by squirell nutkin View Post
When he was about 8 feet away I pointed my finger at him and in my most authoritative voice I shouted "Knock it off!" He stopped and resumed chasing the rabbit.

One of my most weird animal encounters.
I had a similar run in with a racoon. I found myself alone in our campsite, and a coon came trotting in....and eyed me up....

FUCK OFF! i said. and fuck off it did.


spudcon  Saturday May 8 11:19 PM

Despite all it's prowess, my cat dragged a stoat home one day. That cat was an ass kicker.



spudcon  Saturday May 8 11:20 PM

P.S. Didn't eat it though.



monster  Saturday May 8 11:36 PM

Our cats in the UK once brought a live city pigeon -the big fat ones the size of a roast chicken- through the cat flap. It went under a bed and crapped everywhere. Also a live squirrel. And many that were dead and disected by the time we found them. they never ate the kidneys but always licked them clean.

Piece de resistance was a few days before our wedding we woke up to black shreds everywhere. My (black) wedding dress was hung on the back of the door. We're both short-sighted, couldn't see it well.... Never was a person so relieved to get out of bed and step in blackbird remains.



monster  Saturday May 8 11:40 PM

My friend and I saw two robins chasing a squirrel as we walked the other day. By the time I got my camera out, the tide had turned and the squirrel was after the robins....

(yes, I have discovered the "auto-enhance" since our discussions in the Treasure hunt threads! -what a weird function that is -I'm sure the grass wasn't that color...)



monster  Saturday May 8 11:41 PM

I guess I shoulda cropped too



squirell nutkin  Sunday May 9 01:12 AM

Nah, you need the context. It's great the way it is.



SPUCK  Sunday May 9 06:15 AM

We have chickens and fight endlessly against the rats that come for their spilled feed. We've taken to leaving the gate to the pen open at night after closing them in their coop. This provides access to the local cat to hunt the rats that spend the night trying to squeeze, climb, or chew their way into the coop.

Last night our son was laying out on the brick walkway looking at the stars when hideous animal screams started from the coop about 10 feet away. Simultaneously he got a whiff of skunk and saw a bright shooting star.

He was right on the path to the pen and feared he'd have a panicked skunk running into him so he got up briskly. Looking in the direction of the recent commotion he saw a skunk carrying a very large rat in its mouth farther into the heavily planted area of the pen.

We had no idea skunks were rat predators! We are quite happy about it too.



squirell nutkin  Sunday May 9 01:11 PM

Skunks will also kill chickens. A farmer friend hates skunks, they'll get into the pen and start killing chickens, eating them alive. I'll spare you the gruesome details, but it's slow and unpleasant.

OTOH, their fur is exceptionally soft and luxurious (luxuriant?) and was called "American Sable" Until the sable industry lobbied to prevent confusing names. When American Sable had to be called skunk, it lost a lot of appeal.



jinx  Sunday May 9 03:15 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by monster View Post
(yes, I have discovered the "auto-enhance" since our discussions in the Treasure hunt threads! -what a weird function that is -I'm sure the grass wasn't that color...)



Sundae  Sunday May 9 03:19 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by richlevy View Post
Y'know I had heard the word stoat before but never knew what animal referred to.

Those guys looked like weasels.

According to the dictionary, stoat = ermine = weasel.

Now maybe that's an oversimplification of the dictionary and ermine/stoat is a member of the weasel family.

Or it could be a British thing like lorry/truck and torch/flashlight.
Nope, stoat and weasel are different animals in this country. I had to find a site to detail the difference as I couldn't remember myself. Turns out they're so damn close it's hard to tell them apart (wildlife Britain site). The main difference is the litters and that the weasel does not have a black tip to its tail. The pics look identical to me!
Quote:
Originally Posted by monster View Post
My friend and I saw two robins chasing a squirrel as we walked the other day. By the time I got my camera out, the tide had turned and the squirrel was after the robins....
That's a robin?
I'm taking it that's an American robin then.
Is that what they put on Christmas cards?


jinx  Sunday May 9 03:21 PM

Quote:
I'm taking it that's an American robin then.
Could be an unladen african-american robin...


Sundae  Sunday May 9 03:29 PM

This is our chap (from the Wiki page European Robin)



squirell nutkin  Sunday May 9 05:29 PM

I doubt he could carry an empty coconut...



monster  Sunday May 9 05:43 PM

Yes, SG, they're totally different birds, just both happen to have red breasts -American robins are HUGE -probably can't tell from the pic, though, 'cause Michigan Squirrels are also HUGE. -thet driveway behind them is two car width. Those paving slabs on the sidewalk are about 4 feet wide.



Gravdigr  Monday May 10 01:11 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by SPUCK View Post
Around here if you stepped back to take that picture of the petrified rabbit, a hawk would snatch it.
Why, hell, boy!! Around these parts one of our squirrels would have that rabbit on the street and turning tricks within a fortnight.


squirell nutkin  Monday May 10 10:09 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gravdigr View Post
Why, hell, boy!! Around these parts one of our squirrels would have that rabbit on the street and turning tricks within a fortnight.



Sundae  Monday May 10 03:50 PM

Ta Monster. I did think it looked a bit beefier than our little bundles of fluff. Seriously, though - are American robins associated with Winter/ Christmas?

I'd also like to add that now our chooks are getting bigger, I carry them on their backs. I take them out to the outside run when it's sunny and their wings are now strong enough to cause themselves some damage if not held right. It stops the the distress call which works the remaining chick up, making it harder to handle when I come back.

Mrs G (a chicken owner as well as teacher) was impressed that I knew to do this. I thought I'd sound irresponsible if I said I'd learned it on t'internet.



squirell nutkin  Monday May 10 06:21 PM

American Robins are the emblem of Spring, although they often hang around in winter if there is enough food.



DanaC  Monday May 10 06:48 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sundae Girl View Post

Mrs G (a chicken owner as well as teacher) was impressed that I knew to do this. I thought I'd sound irresponsible if I said I'd learned it on t'internet.
Nah. You'd have sounded like someone who is able to research a subject quickly and assimilate the necessary information.


xoxoxoBruce  Tuesday May 11 06:56 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sundae Girl View Post
Ta Monster. I did think it looked a bit beefier than our little bundles of fluff. Seriously, though - are American robins associated with Winter/ Christmas?
Nope, Cardinals on Christmas cards.


ZenGum  Wednesday May 12 07:10 AM

That is a really cool looking bird.



monster  Wednesday May 12 08:06 AM

And very common. I always expect the brightly colored birds to be the less common ones. Lots of bluejays here too, this picture doesn't really do it justice.




Trilby  Wednesday May 12 08:07 AM

this thread is off topic.



monster  Wednesday May 12 08:45 AM

spank us!



spudcon  Thursday May 13 03:56 AM

Me first!



Shawnee123  Thursday May 13 01:40 PM

Ohio and 6 other states have the Cardinal as the state bird. Oh I hate to be mainstream. I'd rather have the Turkey Vulture. One flew in front of my car the other day, wing span about 6 feet. They're ugly yet amazing! Blue Jays aren't claimed by any state. They're beautiful, but kinda mean.

Here's a big old vulture. Their heads are like that so they can easily get them inside the dead rotting carcasses.



squirell nutkin  Thursday May 13 02:32 PM

Looks sort of like a dysfunctional super-hero.
"My special power is that I can smell rotting things from several miles away."



SPUCK  Friday May 14 06:17 AM

State Bird = Crow
State Flower = Black Rose
State animal = Bat
State plant = Black mold.



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